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Old 09-16-2021, 03:32 PM
 
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Jesse Jackson who is vaccinated was treated at Northwestern Hospital in Chicago for COVID. Anyone claiming that only unvaccinated people are using monoclonal antibody treatments is a complete moron.


"In one study published by the CDC and cited by Walensky, the efficacy against infection has plummeted to 53.1 percent for both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines"


Those complaining about unvaccinated people are out there spreading COVID, and are hosts for MUTATIONS. Congratulations.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:33 PM
 
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Prior to a few weeks ago, taking the vaccine was completely voluntary for most people. Trump and Biden literally walked the figurative horse up to the water through and yet you are mad that people didn't want to drink from the water through (aka the vaccine)?

Tell me, how is this the fault of any president that people don't want to take a free vaccine?
It isn't.

It's the president's fault for wasting time beating that vaccine drum when it's clear that everyone who wants one got one and anyone who declined it doesn't want it, and failing to change direction and pursuing a strategy that doesn't involve further vaccination. That date was April 30, 2021 when everyone was able to get a vaccine in all 50 states.

That is 100% on the president, and president alone. It's also on his advisors, but it falls on the president to seek new advice.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:38 PM
 
Location: NY
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What is wrong with that?

Plus I don't understand why they would? In theory the reason Republicans don't want the vaccine (as the story goes) is that they don't want the pandemic to end.

Monoclonals will sure do that.. in fact, will do it better because you will gain natural immunity.
We should wonder why they weren't aggressively rolled out everywhere, immediately with a massive effort. People were dying. Hospitals were overcrowding. And these things sat on shelves???

The reason is clear. The strategy for the pandemic, from day one, was to treat it with vaccines. Even before the vaccines were approved. When no one knew IF they would be successful. It was always vaccines.

If they had people testing positive, getting an infusion, and living life...oh God, can't have that. The pandemic might become manageable. People might not live in fear. Not as many would have gotten the shots.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:39 PM
 
Location: St.Louis
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In short supply because the unvaxxed red states have been hogging the supply. Because unvaxxed seem to think they are "special" and deserve it more than the rest of us.

Go get a vaccine and you won't have to worry about monoclonal antibodies. Otherwise, as I said in another post, go stand in line and wait your turn. And hope you don't get COVID while you're waiting, because the outcomes for the unvaxxed aren't that good these days.
Hmmmm......you're saying if you're vaxxed there's no need to worry about the monoclonal antibodies....and you're blaming the unvaxxed red states for hogging the supply. Why would the supply be going to the vaxxed states when it isn't needed there? Send it where it's needed......makes no sense to send it or hold it in a location that it wouldn't be used.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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The Democratic party absolutely disguests me.

Many, many, many people are going to languish in hospitals for months and pass away prematurely because dictator Joe Biden doesn't like good, honorable men like Ron DeSantis.

Joe Biden and the Democratic party have started COVID-19 death panels by severely rationing monoclonal antibodies to retaliate against states that have Republicanm governors.

According to Dr. Bob Lutz monoclonal antibodies isn't being utilized as much as it could be.

https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/opin...ed/8196734002/

Maybe, he should ask Joe Biden who has started his COVID-19 death panels with sending a fraction of the needed doses of monoclonal antibodies to states with Republican leadership especially Florida.

He has had his entire term to enable the defense production act to ensure everyone who needs the antibodies is able to recieve, but instead Joe Biden wants to severely ration them because he doesn't like the governors of those states.
you linked to a "letter to the editor" from 'Sue in Sioux Falls'
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:43 PM
 
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Next Beijing Buyden will ban Ivermectin and mandate Pfizer's more expensive and experimental version.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:43 PM
 
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Prior to a few weeks ago, taking the vaccine was completely voluntary for most people. Trump and Biden literally walked the figurative horse up to the water through and yet you are mad that people didn't want to drink from the water through (aka the vaccine)?

Tell me, how is this the fault of any president that people don't want to take a free vaccine?

Twisting it and putting the blame on people who choose not to be vaccinated doesn't work anymore.

An mRNA vaccine is being pushed, and Novavax is being stonewalled by this government. It's all about financial gain and everyone can see that.


It is the fault of Biden that monoclonal antibody treatment is unavailable, yes. Absolutely his fault. He is responsible for his lack of leadership in not having treatments available for all Americans.



Many people have personal reasons for not wanting a vaccine, and that is their business. Their choice. Personally, I am recovered Covid, so a vaccine has the potential to do harm to me. Why would I mess up my immune system that worked beautifully and now will recognize variants.



Coercion and dividing the country doesn't work, and is only a political method used by the Biden regime. He needs to take attention away from his miserable performance on so many levels.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:51 PM
 
Location: St.Louis
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Reading through these posts I just have to wonder who decides another persons life is worth more than another's. More to the point.......it appears that there are many here that believe whether you live in a "Blue" state or a "Red" state determines the value placed on a persons life. Am I missing something here?
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:59 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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In short supply because the unvaxxed red states have been hogging the supply. Because unvaxxed seem to think they are "special" and deserve it more than the rest of us.

Go get a vaccine and you won't have to worry about monoclonal antibodies. Otherwise, as I said in another post, go stand in line and wait your turn. And hope you don't get COVID while you're waiting, because the outcomes for the unvaxxed aren't that good these days.
It was all well and good until HHS took over ownership of doling it out.
Now HHS is playing politics.

Politics comes first which is a sad description of the US response to covid.
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Old 09-16-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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Monoclonal antibodies are in high demand right now. The supply is limited, and Alabama, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia and Louisiana have up until now been using up 70 percent of the country's supply. All states that, coincidentally, have dismal vaccination rates.

In Texas, the Department of State Health Services alerted monoclonal antibody providers of HHS’s warning that “the national supply has considerably decreased and states should expect lower amounts of therapeutics available for shipment in the coming weeks,” according to Chris Van Deusen, a spokesman for the state health department.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...dies-shortage/

They get it. There's only so much to go around.

Once again, the antivaxxers are sucking up all the resources and whining because they can't get even more. There are other states besides these who should get their share of the resources as well.
What really is happening is that the other states have seen how the monoclonal antibodies have been having great results in Alabama, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia and Louisiana and now suddenly demand for the antibodies has gone UP.

Instead of ramping up production and supply of the antibodies, Dementia Joe takes the success as a personal affront and doubles down on insisting that people get vaccinated. His poor grasp of the situation is leading to needless deaths.
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