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Old 09-18-2021, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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Originally Posted by kajo13 View Post
I still get these amazed looks from my mom's friends when I speak Spanish. "For a gringa, she speaks so well!"
Hahaha nice! TBH I’ve just been lazy. Languages aren’t that hard for me, I just haven’t put in the effort I should have.

 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:27 PM
 
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This is the second time you've called me arrogant and Hispanics in general. I think you've had a traumatizing personal experience and extrapolated it to millions of others.
It is arrogance to act like Hispanics are more friendly, accepting and inviting of those outside of their ethnic group. Hispanics don't hold the corner of the market on that and yet you singled them out for that. Eat your own words!

I have not had a "traumatizing" personal experience with them or any others. Stop with the melodramatics! I oppose illegal immigration for valid reasons and that is why Spanish is becoming prevalent in this country and native English speakers are being discriminated against in hiring practices. Hispanics here legally or that are citizens of our country are usually bi-lingual so they know English. Remain in denial if you wish!

It also reeks of arrogance that so many Hispanics in our country want open borders so that more of their ethnic group can get into our country and want amnesty for those who violated our immigration laws. It's a tribal mentality.

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Old 09-18-2021, 12:52 PM
 
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You didn't address the separation of religious groups and Native Americans, which means you have no issues with them. Just Hispanics. Noted.
I don't even know what you are talking about! I have no issue with groups that learn and speak English. All the Amerindians (they are no more native to this country than the Europeans were) that I know only speak English in this country.

Hispanics here illegally of course I have an issue with them and one of the downfalls of that is the increased use of Spanish out in mainstream America. Why wouldn't you find fault with that?
 
Old 09-18-2021, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Ive traveled overseas before where I was not given the option to select English and therefore I had to figure it out on my own real quick if I wanted to get by. I dont go to other countries expecting them to cater to me and I dont think our country should either. Enabling allows laziness.
I think it's great when other countries cater to me and other foreigners.

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if you dont know English your out of luck.
Well this is awkward...
 
Old 09-18-2021, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Spain
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I agree, I have been studying modern standard Chinese for years. In some ways it is so simple (grammar wise) ... but there are almost no cognates with Indo-European languages, it takes a while to learn to distinguish the tones and a long time to learn enough of the writing characters to be functional in it.
I can read Chinese just fine, but can't write. I'm not sure it's that necessary in the modern era of IMes.


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Gonna ramp up like crazy. FL already is a new Cuba.
About 70% of people in Florida speak only English.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Try and get a job in Miami without knowing Spanish. Good luck with that!
You're obviously just making things up as you go along here, which is generally how fear-mongering (the entire point of this thread) works.


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You pushed learning Spanish yourself! In order to get hired for many jobs these days one needs to know Spanish because of these illegal invaders and other arrogant Spanish speakers that refuse to learn or speak English. Is that a good reason to learn Spanish in this English speaking country? Hell no, it isn't! Your whole post reeks of anti-Americanism!
Before the pandemic hit the unemployment rate was what something like 3%? Clearly the existence of jobs that require Spanish isn't the boogeyman you're making it out to be.


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Why would there be a requirement to speak Spanish to get a job in this country in the first place? That's discriminating against native English speakers.
I suspect most jobs requiring someone to speak Spanish are that way because it makes that person more effective in that job. It's not discrimination anymore than me posting a software developer job requiring someone can code in Python because that's our dev stack. Go apply for a different job you're qualified for instead of playing victim.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Spain
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The USA is very close to splitting apart.
No it isn't.


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AGREE. Excellent candidates aren't even considered for jobs - including those in the federal government! - unless they know Spanish, and a much lesser candidate - often the offspring of a Spanish-speaking immigrant, is selected instead
Your definition of "excellent" is probably out of wack.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Spain
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It's interesting how high a percentage of population in many other countries speak English.

Netherlands = 90%
Norway = 90%
Sweden = 89%
Denmark = 86%
Singapore = 83%
Austria = 73%
Finland = 70%
Malaysia = 63%
Sri Lanka = 62%

I wonder if they are starting threads somewhere fretting about English everywhere, or accepting that population/language is a non-binary development driven by both convenience and economic necessity. Singapore went so far as to make English one of their official languages.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Spanish is only useful if you want to communicate better with your house cleaner or yard worker who is an immigrant from a Central American country.
Wow. Baiting I guess .
 
Old 09-18-2021, 04:14 PM
 
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after looking at that stuff in del rio on the news, about three days
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