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Old 09-18-2021, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
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We know the CDC isn't counting but "a fraction of" breakthrough COVID cases, so we aren't getting the true, accurate numbers. And you can't prevent people from getting a virus. So, instead of pushing the vaccines, front and center, why isn't there a bigger campaign for the Monoclonal Antibody Treatment?

I know people that have received the treatment and the turnaround was AMAZING. One day they felt awful, had a fever, non-stop coughing, and didn't want to get out of bed. The next day, they went out driving, took a shower, made their own food. The fever had broken, the coughing had ceased, and they felt 100% better.

As I have stated before on this forum, 100% of the vaccinated people I know that came into contact with COVID developed breakthrough cases. They were miserable. They had fevers, coughing fits, and couldn't get out of bed. One was considering checking herself into the hospital because she couldn't breathe well (she didn't though). Yes, she was vaccinated. It didn't do anything, for them. This all took place in August with the Delta variant.

So, here's what I propose. Encourage people to get vaccinated, BUT, the Monoclonal Antibody Treatment is pushed first. Because, even vaccinated people will need it. Then, we go on as normal, if people get sick they are given the treatment. This nonsense about vaccine passports and lockdowns and mask mandates WON'T SOLVE ANYTHING. You can't stop a virus, so we should do what we can to treat people.

Ok, hopping off my soap box!

 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:28 PM
 
Location: NY
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We should have been distributing these massively since they were approved in November of 2020. Why didn't they move heaven and earth to get these out there? Could have saved many lives.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
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We should have been distributing these massively since they were approved in November of 2020. Why didn't they move heaven and earth to get these out there? Could have saved many lives.
Exactly!
 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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It's likely this treatment is quite a bit more expensive than a simple vaccine shot which generally costs the government around $15 each. In time when people aren't keeling over from reactions to the mRNA shots gradually they will be accepted. I don't think they should be forced on people. As much as big pharma is making it's still a fraction of the cost of letting someone get sick and end up in the ICU. Even ivermectin when prescribed isn't really any cheaper than a jab.

Let people make their own decision. If they end up in the ICU and die, well so be it. I don't think we should be giving the unvaccinated monoclonal antibody therapy though... or at least we should be using it on the vaccinated as first priority. Why? Because it's also a new therapy approved for "emergency use" ... so why would you be so scared and resistant towards one type of emergency use treatment that is also new technology while wanting to take another? It's just human nature and our evolutionary wiring... people don't want to be forced into using anything. If they were forcing this monoclonal antibody treatment on people whether they wanted it or not, the same cheerleaders would be screaming about "meh rights!"

On the other hand monoclonal antibody therapy is probably still cheaper than letting a person stew in the ICU, so from a total cost standpoint, I suppose it's still the cheaper option.

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Old 09-18-2021, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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We went over all this.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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We went over all this.
OP's been stuck at too many red lights and hasn't caught up.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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We went over all this.
yeah, asking the same question a second or 15th time. I don't get it.

Somewhere around 99% of the adult population can get the vaccine (all but immune-deficient). It's already paid for, at a cost of <$20.

Only about 5% of the population could use the monoclonal treatment because, well, you've got to get a symptomatic case, with symptoms indicating the illness will worsen (or you're then also in the 1% above). And it costs ~$2K.

The vaccine takes 15 minutes 2x (or once for J&J).
The treatment takes an infusion and an hour, right?

Almost anyone can jab a needle in your upper arm.
Not everybody can properly insert an IV needle into your vein.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:46 PM
 
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yeah, asking the same question a second or 15th time. I don't get it.
I get it... it is very expensive.

New plan...

Vitamin D supplements and free blood testing to insure the blood level is above 50 ng per ml.

Vitamin D has positive effects on cancer, heart disease, diabetes, insulin resistance etc... and it is cheap.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
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Originally Posted by old_cold View Post
OP's been stuck at too many red lights and hasn't caught up.
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Originally Posted by No_Recess View Post
We went over all this.
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Originally Posted by Eyebee Teepee View Post
yeah, asking the same question a second or 15th time. I don't get it.

Somewhere around 99% of the adult population can get the vaccine (all but immune-deficient). It's already paid for, at a cost of <$20.

Only about 5% of the population could use the monoclonal treatment because, well, you've got to get a symptomatic case, with symptoms indicating the illness will worsen (or you're then also in the 1% above). And it costs ~$2K.

The vaccine takes 15 minutes 2x (or once for J&J).
The treatment takes an infusion and an hour, right?

Almost anyone can jab a needle in your upper arm.
Not everybody can properly insert an IV needle into your vein.
I only say this because the vaccination's aren't preventing people from getting sick from the new variants of COVID. In my case, while being anecdotal, 100% of vaccinated people that I know who came into contact with COVID positive people had breakthrough cases. And, they weren't asymptomatic. So, we should be pushing this treatment.
 
Old 09-18-2021, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by Eyebee Teepee View Post
yeah, asking the same question a second or 15th time. I don't get it.

Somewhere around 99% of the adult population can get the vaccine (all but immune-deficient). It's already paid for, at a cost of <$20.

Only about 5% of the population could use the monoclonal treatment because, well, you've got to get a symptomatic case, with symptoms indicating the illness will worsen (or you're then also in the 1% above). And it costs ~$2K.

The vaccine takes 15 minutes 2x (or once for J&J).
The treatment takes an infusion and an hour, right?

Almost anyone can jab a needle in your upper arm.
Not everybody can properly insert an IV needle into your vein.
And there it is, again, OP.

Thanks Eyebee Teepee.
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