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Old 09-23-2021, 07:49 PM
 
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So they aren’t human until they exit the vagina canal?
The operative word in her quote was “born”.

 
Old 09-23-2021, 07:54 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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More than 62 million abortions have been performed since Roe vs. Wade. Abortion is really a form of population control.

It is simply a way to prevent millions of undesirable children, largely minorities, to be born into society.
Contraception can be used as a eugenic tool
Contraception is often misused in mass population control programmes in a racist way
Mass population control programmes can be a form of cultural imperialism or a misuse of power
Contraception may lead to depopulation
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Contraception can be used as a eugenic tool
Contraception is often misused in mass population control programmes in a racist way
Mass population control programmes can be a form of cultural imperialism or a misuse of power
Contraception may lead to depopulation
given that it's pretty apparent that the fundamental motivation for most of the anti-choice crowd is more about punishing women for being sexually active, I'm sure they'd be just fine with banning contraception as well. Since with their fake world view that they mistakenly want to think is science, they can't really allow that either. But as long as they can pretend they have the authority to claim the right to control women and their bodies, they're good.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:14 PM
 
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Why not just call a spade a spade? Anyway the guilt from accepting the reality might just save a few more humans.

Pregnant women won't die by not getting an abortion, but a person does die when it's performed.
The reality is that we are creating more people into poverty. We have no actual plan when these kids are born, like guaranteed education and healthcare for all of them. Instead we just leave them to defend for themselves after they are born.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:25 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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So they aren’t human until they exit the vagina canal?
I didn't claim that at all. I didn't say a single thing regarding when the fertilized egg has grown sufficiently for me to consider it an actual human.

By the way, it's vaginal canal.

I do believe a fetus is worthy of protection (and what I would call human) at some point well before exiting the vaginal canal. But it is not a legally recognized human until birth. A pregnant woman cannot claim her fetus as a dependent for tax purposes; if stillborn, no birth certificate is given; insurance policy cannot be taken out on a fetus; unborn are not counted in the census, etc.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:30 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Why not just call a spade a spade? Anyway the guilt from accepting the reality might just save a few more humans.

Pregnant women won't die by not getting an abortion, but a person does die when it's performed.


Why not face facts, cut the hyperbolic nonsense, and just admit that abortion DOES NOT kill bables?
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:46 PM
 
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The reality is that we are creating more people into poverty. We have no actual plan when these kids are born, like guaranteed education and healthcare for all of them. Instead we just leave them to defend for themselves after they are born.

So we need abortion to reduce the number of people in poverty? Really? We've aborted more than a million babies a year for the past fifty years. 62 million by some counts. Do you really think there would be 62 million more people living on poverty?


LBJ's war on poverty has done a fine job of expanding the number of people in poverty. All abortion has done is eliminate any chance its victims had to breathe.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:47 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Biden and his federal vaccine mandates beg to differ. Democratic governors and their “no vaccine no dining” also beg to differ.

“My body my choice” either applies to everything or nothing.
No vaccine no dining? Are you saying that unvaccinated aren't allowed to eat anymore? Or are they not allowed to eat out in a restaurant? Because if that's your point, then understand, eating in a restaurant is not a right, it's a privilege, and the pandemic isn't the start of that. Ever notice those signs out in some restaurants, We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone??

You aren't going to be forced to vaccinate - but you can't force those of us who are vaccinated to tolerate your presence and be exposed to your potentially infected presence. Just as you can't force people to think and believe as you do about women's reproductive rights. It's quite simple really.
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:48 PM
 
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Why not face facts, cut the hyperbolic nonsense, and just admit that abortion DOES NOT kill bables?
What does abortion kill?
 
Old 09-23-2021, 08:50 PM
 
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So we need abortion to reduce the number of people in poverty? Really? We've aborted more than a million babies a year for the past fifty years. 62 million by some counts. Do you really think there would be 62 million more people living on poverty?


LBJ's war on poverty has done a fine job of expanding the number of people in poverty. All abortion has done is eliminate any chance its victims had to breathe.
I didn't say that. But maybe you have a solution when they are born.
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