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That's the lipstick that people like you try to put on this pig but it just isn't so. It is done far more often than they will admit to, and often because the mother has a change of "heart" towards the very end of term.
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Because there is a difference in someone who is born, expelled from the womb and has a medical condition that requires technology (machines) or care and an undeveloped, non viable fetus who can not live outside its host. One is an established person with all the legal rights of an adult person and one is a potential person. Im not sure why you keep comparing Hawking to a fetus.
At about 20 weeks a fetus may be able to survive outside of the womb. Maybe in the future a fetus may be able to survive sooner than 20 weeks.
As I had mentioned a few times, IF medical science hadn't advanced as much as it had then Hawking probably wouldn't have lived very long. It wasn't until the mid 1920's when they were finally discovered brainwaves. Doctors probably would have let him die or killed him, because they had no clue that his brain was still working....and because he was unable to on his own.
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There are people everyday who have do not resuscitate orders, and who are disconnected from life support although they could live years or decades being kept alive by medical technology.
Which is a completely different subject.
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Seriously, you think at some future time the cerebral cortex is going to develop sooner? And will the brain then be fully developed before age 25?
Where did I say any of that? I didn't so stop putting words in my mouth. I was talking about advancement of medical science, and discovering more about a fetus then they know right now. Do you seriously think that they now know everything there is to know about the human brain, the fetus, etc? lol, no. It truly sounds like you're making excuses, excuses which probably helps you sleep at night.
That did not answer my question. But let's say that you got your wish. Every form of BC that can prevent implantation of the fertilized egg (or actually, the blastocyst) became illegal. Should women who continued to use their stockpiles of BC be convicted of murder and sentenced accordingly? (Life in prison) Is this what you would want for your female friends and family members who continued to use BC?
If not, what would be the purpose of making BC illegal?
I have no problem with women going to jail for their bad choices.
Life does not begin at fertilization. 50% of all fertilized eggs never even implant. They pass through the woman's Fallopian tubes and uterus and out through her menses during her monthly period. It might be a day late, or on time, and she'll never be any the wiser. Does anyone have funerals for those 50% of fertilized eggs? Absolutely not.
There are many fertilized eggs that implant, but let go after a few days, or a week. Again, the woman never realizes she was even pregnant, just thinks her period was a tad late. Again, no funerals. And what about all of the women who go through infertility treatments and have embryos inserted into their uterus in the hopes of having them implant? Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. But again, no one is having funerals for those embryos that fail to implant.
I went through many IVF cycles myself in attempts to get pregnant. Over several years, I had 56 embryos created in the lab. I had three embryos that eventually implanted, in two pregnancies, and I lost both pregnancies in the end, one at 7 weeks, the other at 10 weeks. I had no funerals. Do I consider myself the mother of 56 dead children? Absolutely not. Should I? Absolutely not. I am the mother of one child, whom I adopted.
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I have no problem with women going to jail for their bad choices.
Their bad choices.
And that's it in a nutshell. It's not about the foetus, or the fertilized egg, or the embryo, or the DNA, or the potential baby.
That's why pro life people are able to justify abortion in the case of rape or incest, where the female (I say female because that can happen to 12 year old children, not just women) had no active choice in having sex.
The "baby" is only "murdered" when the female chose to have sex - if they were raped or otherwise coerced then abortion is allowed, understandable, sympathetic even and the abortion seeker is not judged.
That is the unforgivable sin here. Women making their own choices.
The obvious slippery slope is that you have a miscarriage and there'll be a trial to determine whether you are criminally responsible for that abortion.
Allow this attitude to prevail and that's where it will go.
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