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Old 09-24-2021, 06:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Absolom View Post
As of now in most places (U.S.), a woman has the right to choose whether or not to let her pregnancy come to term. A man doesn't. If a man wants the pregnancy to come to term, he can be overruled by the woman. However, if the man doesn't want to be a father, he still has to support the person born for 18 years, if the woman chooses to give birth.

So should a man have say in this?
No

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Is it fair that he can't opt out if he wishes?

Discuss!
Yes.

And I say the above as a man who is not a liberal, not a Democrat, and not a Biden voter (not a Trumper nor an R either).

 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:01 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81 View Post
Nope. Abortion is a medical procedure, and like every other medical procedure, should be kept between
the patient and the doctor.
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Female genital mutilation is a medical procedure that should be kept between the doctor and the patient/parent.
Touché!

Would rep you again if I could.
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:07 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Originally Posted by TBQEgg11 View Post
A guy killing millions of lives daily when he masturbates. Some people had sex like crazy and get pregnant just as often as rabbits. It doesn't mean they will have to keep all the babies and later on provide criminals and under-educated new citizens for the society which has already dealing with overpopulation and lacking of resources. Qualities is better than quantities.
By that logic a woman is also killing a life every time she chooses to menstruate, men must only climax when having unprotected sex with a fertile woman and women must always be pregnant. That's retro AF. I am pro abortion but this viewpoint is ludicrous. Nevermind the fact that a sperm or egg is only half a potential human, you'd have us going either to one extreme or the other. There's no room for a reasonable person in your logic.
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Socal
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Female genital mutilation is a medical procedure that should be kept between the doctor and the patient/parent.
How could you compare those two? It's lame.

There's a main different btw female genital mutilation and abortion, the former were bad to receiver's health, not a result of her bad choice, not the one she want to do to begin with, instead of being forced to.
The later is the one the receiver wish to do as it bring her benefits: her reputation, her life and a future career, her financial life, the control of her life to take on the task when she's ready, the sake of her psychology life, her family's honor if she's raped.

Actually not one different but many different between the cases.
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by absolom View Post
as of now in most places (u.s.), a woman has the right to choose whether or not to let her pregnancy come to term. A man doesn't. If a man wants the pregnancy to come to term, he can be overruled by the woman. However, if the man doesn't want to be a father, he still has to support the person born for 18 years, if the woman chooses to give birth.

So should a man have say in this? Is it fair that he can't opt out if he wishes?

Discuss!
yes!!!!!!
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:14 AM
 
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No its the girl who has the baby,why should a guy say yes/no??
It take TWO to tango.

The man may want to KEEP the baby after it is born and she is out of the picture.

He has as much "right" as she does.

And I thought the left fought so hard for "EQUAL RIGHTS"!

It is ironic how so many on the left preach equal rights, then time after tinm go gauntness what they claim to be for!
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:15 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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How could you compare those two? It's lame.

There's a main different btw female genital mutilation and abortion, the former were bad to receiver's health, not a result of her bad choice, not the one she want to do to begin with, instead of being forced to.
The later is the one the receiver wish to do as it bring her benefits: her reputation, her life and a future career, her financial life, the control of her life to take on the task when she's ready, the sake of her psychology life, her family's honor if she's raped.

Actually not one different but many different between the cases.
None of those are the reasons we allow abortion, nor should they be.
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:19 AM
 
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As Liberal as I am I do believe a Man should have a say in such a important decision as well.
The issues that arise from this brings up some serious questions though.
Was this pregnancy a result of a "casual fling" or are we looking at a serious long term relationship?
How committed is this "couple" to bringing up & raising a child"?
Sex is a responsibility.
"Was this pregnancy a result of a "casual fling""

Shouldn't matter.

When you CHOOSE to engage in sex you KNOW what the consequences CAN BE.

You CAN'T stick you hand into a fire, then complain about getting burnt!
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:21 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Couldn’t rep you again. People need to be mindful of the proper pronoun use and be inclusive of other identities…or else!
Birthing person's!
 
Old 09-24-2021, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Socal
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Originally Posted by Toxic Waltz View Post
By that logic a woman is also killing a life every time she chooses to menstruate, men must only climax when having unprotected sex with a fertile woman and women must always be pregnant. That's retro AF. I am pro abortion but this viewpoint is ludicrous. Nevermind the fact that a sperm or egg is only half a potential human, you'd have us going either to one extreme or the other. There's no room for a reasonable person in your logic.
I already know your definition of life only begins when an egg is fertilized, but it's not as different that much. It's just the observation you were programed to look at, then get used to it with that point of view.
To me, its' not much different when 2 kids played husband and wife, or a prostitute got pregnant from some guy that she doesn't know his name, It's better for them and for the society if that fertilized eggs don't existed. The society will end up with much better healthy productive citizens, instead of criminals.

Irony enough, people who care about the results of prostitute houses can be as cruel to bomb the doctors' office to kill many people, and make other lives living hell despite their talk of valuing lives.
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