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Old 09-25-2021, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by ploytewe View Post
Ya whats being forced down peoples throats now are not even vaccines..... They are who knows what THAT DO WHO KNOWS WHAT!!
Not vaccines?

Not all vaccines are one and done.

Best example is the annual flu vaccine with limited duration.

It is reformulated each year to target the 4 most influenza viruses prevalent in the Southern Hemisphere. Seniors have the opportunity to receive a high dose shot.

No vaccine is 100% effective in all people, all the time.

 
Old 09-25-2021, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Religious exemptions are very real. The Vax is produced with fetal bi-products of abortions. No Christian wants the mark of the beast injected into them.
Fair enough. Do they also avoid all of these products (and hundreds more) that used fetal cell lines in development or production?

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Old 09-25-2021, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Everything is so out of control..........
Everything?
 
Old 09-25-2021, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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In March, 2021 Trump said:

“ Hope everyone remembers when they’re getting the vaccine, that if I wasn’t president, you wouldn’t be getting that BEAUTIFUL shot for 5 years at best and probably wouldn’t be getting it at all. I hope everyone remembers”.

https://www.fox29.com/news/trump-tak...yone-remembers

There is no question, Trump viewed the Covid vaccine as his greatest accomplishment. I don’t understand how the most loyal Trump followers can deny Trump his greatest accomplishment.

Don’t anyone tell Trump that the rest of the world accelerated research/ development, trialing and approval of Covid vaccines. The UK and Canada approved a vaccine for emergency use before the US did. Both Russia and China developed their own vaccines before the US approved a vaccine for emergency use.

More than 6 billion doses of vaccine have been given world wide.

Had the US chosen a more conventional process for approval, it’s likely the US hospital systems would have imploded and the death toll would be millions and counting, right now, especially given opposition to masks, distancing and state/ county/ local government restrictions.

The US may very well have produced its own, even more contagious variant than Delta.
 
Old 09-25-2021, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The title where it says "Don't forget to turn your clocks back to 1942" started that. I mean what else happened in 1942 that people needed to "show their papers" for. Hello McFly.
OP purposely chose to use 1942 as a baseline.
 
Old 09-25-2021, 02:00 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Ya but Im not schizophrenic.
Who said any different?
 
Old 09-25-2021, 02:06 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Religious exemptions are very real. The Vax is produced with fetal bi-products of abortions. No Christian wants the mark of the beast injected into them.
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https://www.health.nd.gov/sites/www/...ll_Handout.pdf


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In various stages of vaccine development and manufacturing, some of the COVID-19 vaccines
used cells originally isolated from fetal tissue (often referred to as fetal cells), some of which
were originally derived from an aborted fetus.
The use of fetal cell lines is a very sensitive and
important topic within some faith communities and among individuals with concerns about the
ethics of using materials derived in this way.

Why are fetal cells used to make the COVID vaccines?
Historical fetal cell lines were derived in the 1960’s and 1970’s from two elective abortions and
have been used to create vaccines for diseases such as hepatitis A, rubella, and rabies. Abortions
from which fetal cells were obtained were elective and were not done for the purpose of vaccine
development.
The fetal cell lines being used to produce some of the potential COVID-19 vaccines are from two
sources:
● HEK-293: A kidney cell line that was isolated from a fetus in 1973 (undisclosed origin,
from either a spontaneous miscarriage or an elective abortion)
● PER.C6: A retinal cell line that was isolated from an aborted fetus in 1985
 
Old 09-25-2021, 02:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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"Show me your papers" wasn't limited only to the Jews. Everyone had to show them. While the picture shows Nazis, the same thing happened in the Soviet Union and elsewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_papers,_please

Japan randomly stops people and asks for their ID. Which has nothing to do with Covid.

https://japantoday.com/category/feat...happen-and-why
In the USA it is a 4th amendment violation.
 
Old 09-25-2021, 02:09 PM
 
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What are the unintended consequences of vaccine passports?
 
Old 09-25-2021, 04:31 PM
 
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I disagree, it is. If you think it is wrong for you to show your vaccine status (which only a few states and mostly private businesses like concert venues are asking), then you cannot say that we need picture and voter ID to cast a ballot, even if it is mailed in. I think the voter ID is a problem since it relies on the highly inefficient DMV system and has to be done in-person.
I suppose a drivers license is a problem for you also for the same reasons. Have one?
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As for vaccines, it is with a lot of things that largely are voluntary. You don't have to work for an employer with 100+ employees, you can just as easily choose to work for a small business or become an independent contractor, self-employ yourself or become a consultant. You don't have to go to concert venues or sports events asking for your vaccination status. If you're a Buffalo Bills fan, travel to another state for an away game and one of the Bills will get you the ticket because he disagrees with the owner's fan vaccine mandate.
As the author of the post you are responding has said, "requiring proof that you are eligible to vote in an election reserved to citizens is not equal to requiring proof that you are eligible to be in public", which is exactly what you are proposing. Why should any of this be necessary. Here is another idea. You fear for your safety "with a lot of things that largely are voluntary", you can choose to stay home. Don't like that option? Now your getting the idea...
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