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Old 09-29-2021, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
So is it better to take your chances ending up in a hospital or take the vaccine.
That isn’t the question. The question is how does a vaccine which doesn’t prevent people from contracting and transmitting the virus count as “conquering” the virus. You made the claim, I’m asking you to use logic to back it up.

It isn’t my job to decide what is “better” for other people. My job is to decide what is better for me. Your job is to decide what is better for you. The two positions may not match, but that doesn’t make you a bad person for getting the vaccine or me a bad person for not getting it. If the vaccine actually functioned as a vaccine, providing immunity from the virus rather than simply alleviating the symptoms so that those who catch it can continue about their normal life while spreading the virus, we might be able to have a different conversation. It doesn’t though, so here we are being pitted against each other by the powers that be over a vaccine which is less effective than the flu vaccine (which I have never taken and have also never had the flu).

 
Old 09-29-2021, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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How many vaccinated people have contracted Covid?
Sure there are breakthrough cases, but how many out of the total vaccinated?

If someone is fully vaccinated and never ever contracts Covid post-vaccine, I’d argue that the vaccines have done exactly what they’re supposed to do.

Of course, we need a few more years to determine full effectiveness, but I’m willing to bet that the percentage of those who have breakthrough cases will remain a very small percentage of those vaccinated.
What about those who aren’t vaccinated and never contract Covid? I know people who have been locked in the same house as family who tested positive and never had so much as a sniffle.
 
Old 09-29-2021, 06:24 AM
 
Location: NY
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I guess you missed the story of the Texas prison where 70% of the fully vaccinated got Delta, I posted the link yesterday.
Good point. Also the Provincetown outbreak this past summer where 900 were infected and 74% of them were fully vaccinated.
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