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Old 09-27-2021, 12:35 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Anybody watch CNN this morning? They had some guy on discussing the 30% increase in murders this last year, and he basically blamed law abiding gun owners. (Though not in so many words.)

The ghist that I got was, most gun crimes (murders) are committed with illegal / stolen weapons.

Therefore "gun violence" and murder is actually the fault of legal gun owners who's guns are stolen by criminals.

So it goes to reason that if lawfully armed citizens were denied the right to own guns and guns were confiscated from legal owners, then criminals wouldn't have as many guns available to steal - hence crime should drop.

Excuse me while I go beat my head against a wall. I thought even Gumby would have trouble stretching that far, but it seems to be a perfectly natural solution in the minds of some.

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That's the argument used in Maryland, too, whenever they decide to pass more gun control laws (which is pretty much every year): if we limit the legal gun owners then the downtrodden of our urban areas will have fewer to steal.
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Old 09-27-2021, 12:37 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I wouldn't say necessarily legal gun owners. Instead say STUPID gun owners.

Local police are always reminding people to not leave their guns in unlocked vehicles.
What's funny about that is that the last three firearms stolen from vehicles here belonged to law enforcement members, two from the same guy.
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Old 09-27-2021, 12:50 PM
 
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Corporate media outlets such as CNN are more destructive than cancer
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Old 09-27-2021, 12:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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Why on earth are you watching CNN?
All I watch is CNN for as long as I can hold my nose. Just love to see what lies they are backing now: Jussie Smollet, Michael Brown, the Covington high School Students, Governor Cuomo
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Old 09-27-2021, 12:56 PM
 
Location: USA
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Corporate media outlets such as CNN, are more destructive than cancer
Absolutely, but interesting to watch
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Old 09-27-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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Guns are being brought up this week because they slipped a red flag/confiscation section in a 1300 page defense bill and these will be the arguments/ talking points of the week.
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Old 09-27-2021, 01:00 PM
 
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People kill.
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Old 09-27-2021, 01:01 PM
 
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People kill.
Especially those with govt credentials
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Old 09-27-2021, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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People kill.
Especially people in Democrat controlled Philly...murders 400+ so far this year up 29% over same period last year:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelp...es-more-police

How about this...if the Dems can stop the murders in their own cities that they have had 100% control over for decades, we'll open the dialogue about selling guns at gun shows? I'd support that.
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Old 09-27-2021, 02:51 PM
 
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Especially those with govt credentials
Very seldom. The latest FBI data clearly shows which group commits the most homicides in the US. And it isn’t law enforcement.


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-3.xls
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