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Old 09-28-2021, 04:13 PM
 
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This is the link that shows that as of late July, 29% of physicians at Cincinnati Children's Hospital had not been vaccinated. https://ohionewstime.com/the-memo-sh...inated/218585/

Yes, the majority have been vaccinated but 29% is a LOT, I think, when one is talking about physicians refusing a vaccine.
That is a lot.

"29% unvaccinated for doctors for all employees"

But what does that mean?
Are these their employed docs, as opposed to the private docs that come in and attend?
Are there employed docs that might do research, and not see patients?
Are these docs that see the employees?


And of course the data is 2 months old, a significant time as things change so quickly in the Pandemic.
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Old 09-28-2021, 04:16 PM
 
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To understand what this is all about:
If Trump had been re-elected and was pushing the vaccine, all of the MSM, all of the usual talking heads, ALL of the Democrats: They would ALL be refusing the vaccine, minus a cohort of fat or basically fear filled almost dead boomers. Even more so now that we know the damn thing doesn't work. I would guess 50-60% wouldn't touch it, because Democrats would do their research to discredit the evil orange man and would easily discover all the discrepancies.

The same 25% that aren't down with taking it now, wouldn't take it under Trump either.

Once you view this $#!T show through that lens, you can see this charade as the absolute theater that it is. It's all political, and it is all a power play. How high that goes *cough* globalists and big pharma dividing and conquering while getting rich *cough* is anyone's guess.
Not a chance in hell! The Dems/libs merely follow the medical recommendations. It would matter zero to the medical communities of the world which President.
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Old 09-28-2021, 04:18 PM
 
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The good news is that the 2% unvaccinated will come from all of the illegal immigrants so the US citizen vaccination rate must be 100%!
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Old 09-28-2021, 04:20 PM
 
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I agree however it is interesting to think about what percentage we would be at if Trump didn't pull the whole hoax thing.

We are at 55% now.

If Lysol Man didn't Lysol it up, I'd say we would be going at least 70% and could have got there sooner. At that point, it would have been interesting to see the impact of Delta. I know Delta was first detected in December 2020 so it would have still been here but I definitely think things would have been different and for the better.
It certainly would have mattered in the Red states today. Trump is losing voters every day. I sure hope he doesn't lose too many in AZ, as we return there next week.
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Old 09-28-2021, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The early Pandemic policies were medically based on best current information. When local hospitals all over the world pivoted in March of 2020, local gov'ts and on up all over the world had to respond. The 2 week flattening was simply an optimistic but wrong medical opinion early on.
Let me ask you a personal question, as a doctor, because this has always bugged me -

Even to a layman, such as myself, I knew this thing wasn't a two-week deal. Just from 1918 we knew this. And I remember hearing a few experts early on saying the two-week thing wasn't going to cut it. I wish I could recall the specific expert I saw on a podcast but he said during the first week that we were looking at at about 500K deaths by the end of the calendar year. I think we were around 360K so off but still that number was staggering to think about in the first few days.

So question -

Did the medical community know the truth and withhold it? To me, they had to know. It's not how things worked in 1918 and how viral infections in general work...the whole 2-week deal. Or did they know and tell the politicians but the suits ignored based on well, politics?

I mean, based on numbers we should be completely closed right now if you "go by the science".
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Old 09-28-2021, 04:38 PM
 
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Let me ask you a personal question, as a doctor, because this has always bugged me -

Even to a layman, such as myself, I knew this thing wasn't a two-week deal. Just from 1918 we knew this. And I remember hearing a few experts early on saying the two-week thing wasn't going to cut it. I wish I could recall the specific expert I saw on a podcast but he said during the first week that we were looking at at about 500K deaths by the end of the calendar year. I think we were around 360K so off but still that number was staggering to think about in the first few days.

So question -

Did the medical community know the truth and withhold it? To me, they had to know. It's not how things worked in 1918 and how viral infections in general work...the whole 2-week deal. Or did they know and tell the politicians but the suits ignored based on well, politics?

I mean, based on numbers we should be completely closed right now if you "go by the science".
My wife and I caught Covid the second week of March 2020, since we and my ski buddies, some docs, did not think it serious enough yet. Looking back retrospectively gives many the feeling of knowing things correctly all along. So I would say March turned almost all medical heads.
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Old 09-29-2021, 03:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not a chance in hell! The Dems/libs merely follow the medical recommendations. It would matter zero to the medical communities of the world which President.
How can you, in good conscience, keep repeating something you've already been shown to be untrue?
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Old 09-29-2021, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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How can you, in good conscience, keep repeating something you've already been shown to be untrue?
The left will keep doubling down on their BS and will never admit they are wrong.
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Old 09-29-2021, 03:43 AM
 
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This is what being baited/switched looks like. All the good liberals will update their firmware and start parroting 98%.
Four legs good, two legs betterrrrr. Amazing.
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Old 09-29-2021, 06:57 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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And since we'll never reach 98% the mandated precautions will stay in place indefinitely.
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