Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-01-2021, 10:40 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,329 posts, read 54,389,283 times
Reputation: 40736

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
My feeling is all this green new deal crap if it happens it will cripple our energy production just has Europe. They were bent on stopping fossil fuels regardless if they had any plan to actually replace them.


Uh, then WHY are they using natural gas which is a fossil fuel?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-01-2021, 10:58 AM
 
2,385 posts, read 1,587,677 times
Reputation: 923
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Filed under "when governments are in charge"
Right, because a failed state would be so much better.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 11:03 AM
 
2,385 posts, read 1,587,677 times
Reputation: 923
Quote:
Originally Posted by burdell View Post
Uh, then WHY are they using natural gas which is a fossil fuel?
Natural Gas is just a bridge technology until the Europeans can get all their energy from renewable energy sources.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 11:08 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
52,697 posts, read 34,555,075 times
Reputation: 29289
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Green energy zealots are the guys who jump from a plane before putting on their parachutes, of course they want you to jump first.

Biden set Putin up to reap countless billions in the euro market.

Good thing Putin is not our enemy.... or so said to Mitt by Obama
zhoe is putin's obedient poodle.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 11:21 AM
 
Location: USA
9,136 posts, read 6,185,387 times
Reputation: 29986
With all the goings on in Washington, it's hard to believe the planet doesn't have enough hot air blowing around.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
16,556 posts, read 10,630,149 times
Reputation: 36573
Ah, the "wisdom" of the European governing elites. First, dismantle coal and nuclear, the two sources that are the most reliable and provide you with some degree of energy independence. Then, devote yourselves to sources that are unreliable and unable to meet more than a portion of your total demand, like wind and solar. As a backup, shackle yourself to a fickle, sometimes hostile supplier (i.e. Russia) to make up your energy shortfalls. Then, when the inevitable shortages hit, demand more money to build more unreliable sources. And be sure you ensnare yourself in economically suicidal usage targets, such as the Paris Climate Accords.

As sad as this is, what's even worse (from our perspective) is that under Biden, we're following the same shortsighted, doomed-to-fail strategy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
15,946 posts, read 12,287,130 times
Reputation: 16109
I never understood the mentality of exporting the problem.... Curtail domestic oil production then tell the Saudis to ramp up theirs all while requests for more pipelines get denied....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 01:58 PM
 
19,721 posts, read 10,124,301 times
Reputation: 13089
I drive through a field of wind turbines to see my doctor. They are on both sides of the highway. Usually, about 1/2 of them are not turning. Don't know if they are broken, or just not enough wind.
We have oil under the ground here. About 5 years ago they pulled all the pumps and capped the wells. No idea why. The pumps were running constantly before they pulled them. I drove past them every morning.
There is also a bio fuel plant a few miles from here, but I think it closed too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Canada
7,680 posts, read 5,529,153 times
Reputation: 8817
Americans aren't just blocking Canadian oil pipelines, now they're fighting Hydro-Quebec's clean power lines.
Renewable energy powerhouse's plan to light up U.S. northeast encounters opposition from local groups, fossil fuel rivals:

https://financialpost.com/commoditie...il-fuel-rivals
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2021, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Islip Township
958 posts, read 1,106,061 times
Reputation: 1315
good let the tree huggers get cold.
Energy is out there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:53 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top