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Paul does not have to be an infectious disease expert to challenge Fauci, or any specialist. Not because Paul is a US Senator, but precisely because he has medical training.
Paul's medical training involved analytical tools, such as process of elimination, review statistical data, consult specialists, and so on. These investigative/troubleshooting tools are common in all fields, even nonscientific ones such as law. But when we have leadership and policies in the mix, and as a US Senator, Rand Paul is that, then ALL of us are obligated to challenge specialists when they propose changes that affect our lives. The alternative is to live under a technocratic dictatorship where the citizenry have no voice and all decision making are opaque.
By demanding that we DO NOT challenge specialists, YOU are telling us that you believe in the concept of a benevolent dictatorship, in this case, a technocratic one. To date, Singapore is the closest to having a benevolent dictatorship under Lee Kuan Yew, and his government did things that would not pass US-style constitutional review. The other benevolent dictatorship is God.
In this case he's not even challenging a specialist. He's challenging a political hack.
Becerra clearly couldn't justify his position. That was his first time probably even hearing about natural immunity.
Think of all the healthcare providers that fought the battle, have first hand knowledge of what Covid does, risked their lives, caught Covid in the line of duty, and now are getting fired because they refuse the vaccine. How absolutely absurd is that?
Of course he couldn't. He's a lawyer and politican. No medical background.
That would be why he's not familiar with medical studies.
BUT he is the first Latino to be in that position so that's all that counts so he can be the boss of HHS.
Becerra clearly couldn't justify his position. That was his first time probably even hearing about natural immunity.
Think of all the healthcare providers that fought the battle, have first hand knowledge of what Covid does, risked their lives, caught Covid in the line of duty, and now are getting fired because they refuse the vaccine. How absolutely absurd is that?
Not only is natural immunity been proven to be more durable and protective than vaccinated immunity for Sars-CoV-2, but there is emerging evidence that people with natural immunity who get a 2-doses of the vaccine experience "immune exhaustion" where their level of antibodies and T-cells for Sars-CoV-2 begin to decline.
Paul does not have to be an infectious disease expert to challenge Fauci, or any specialist. Not because Paul is a US Senator, but precisely because he has medical training.
Paul's medical training involved analytical tools, such as process of elimination, review statistical data, consult specialists, and so on. These investigative/troubleshooting tools are common in all fields, even nonscientific ones such as law. But when we have leadership and policies in the mix, and as a US Senator, Rand Paul is that, then ALL of us are obligated to challenge specialists when they propose changes that affect our lives. The alternative is to live under a technocratic dictatorship where the citizenry have no voice and all decision making are opaque.
By demanding that we DO NOT challenge specialists, YOU are telling us that you believe in the concept of a benevolent dictatorship, in this case, a technocratic one. To date, Singapore is the closest to having a benevolent dictatorship under Lee Kuan Yew, and his government did things that would not pass US-style constitutional review. The other benevolent dictatorship is God.
By the way, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex was a bartender who had some economics education, but no real experience in economics policy, is big on climate change. Care to tell us what are AOC's credentials to challenge scientists who have doubts about human caused climate changes?
What you just did was the "genetic fallacy." And very unscientific. The argument rests on the logic and evidence, not the person advocating it. Fauci may have all the credentials in the world, he's still wrong on natural immunity (either because he's genuinely wrong or he's lying to promote vaccination) as he was wrong on many other things during this pandemic. He has been a national embarrassment.
Not only is natural immunity been proven to be more durable and protective than vaccinated immunity for Sars-CoV-2, but there is emerging evidence that people with natural immunity who get a 2-doses of the vaccine experience "immune exhaustion" where their level of antibodies and T-cells for Sars-CoV-2 begin to decline.
Conspiracy theorist.
Why do you want Americans to die?
Unless you've had immune exhaustion don't comment because you don't know what it's like.
Pine Trees, have a degree in Forestry, they don't have a degree in the medical field.
There is no certainty about the durability of “ natural immunity” acquired from a prior Covid infection, especially against newer variants.
Trump was vaccinated in early January, just 3 months after being hospitalized with Covid and treated with a Regeneron cocktail. Reasonable to assume POTUS receives the best medical care in the world. For whatever reasons, age, health, something else, Trump did not acquire sufficient natural immunity to a future infection resulting from a prior infection and antibody treatment.
While anecdotal, I know 2 people who were infected twice and hospitalized, both times, likely 2 different variants.
Current science is that a decline in natural immunity begins 6-8 months after the initial infection. Decline is a variable and may begin as soon as 90 days after the initial infection or remain reasonable stable longer, in some individuals.
Agree with much here.
There is no absolute certainty period fullstop. Basically, this is the human condition aside from faith based conclusions which, personally & generally speaking, I do not disdain.
There is no certainty re: Covid period fullstop.
Asserting certainty is not science, it's ideology.
The word 'ideology' was first coined to describe the 'science of ideas'.
I wholeheartedly agree with you when you say "current science". Science observes reality & seeks explanations, it changes.
it's as if a large segment read the "may" and grasp that as a definitive "natural immunity wanes".
the NIH article/study alone is enough, but ever since the vaccine became available, and they were (rightly) successful getting the old take it, the entire narrative became "Everyone must take it".
Paul does not have to be an infectious disease expert to challenge Fauci, or any specialist. Not because Paul is a US Senator, but precisely because he has medical training.
Paul's medical training involved analytical tools, such as process of elimination, review statistical data, consult specialists, and so on. These investigative/troubleshooting tools are common in all fields, even nonscientific ones such as law. But when we have leadership and policies in the mix, and as a US Senator, Rand Paul is that, then ALL of us are obligated to challenge specialists when they propose changes that affect our lives. The alternative is to live under a technocratic dictatorship where the citizenry have no voice and all decision making are opaque.
By demanding that we DO NOT challenge specialists, YOU are telling us that you believe in the concept of a benevolent dictatorship, in this case, a technocratic one. To date, Singapore is the closest to having a benevolent dictatorship under Lee Kuan Yew, and his government did things that would not pass US-style constitutional review. The other benevolent dictatorship is God.
By the way, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex was a bartender who had some economics education, but no real experience in economics policy, is big on climate change. Care to tell us what are AOC's credentials to challenge scientists who have doubts about human caused climate changes?
let us not forget Fauci's *whiff* on the issue September 10th
CNN's Sanjay Gupta asked if people who have already recovered from COVID-19 should still be required to get the vaccine.
"I don't have a really firm answer for you on that," he said Thursday on CNN. "I think that is something that we need to sit down and discuss seriously."
OK, it's been 3 weeks. The entire time, Delta and hospitalizations have been decreasing. Three weeks is plenty of time to "sit down and discuss seriously". Maybe look at the Israeli study. See if there's been any update or where it stands in the holy grail of "peer review".
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