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Old 10-15-2021, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Here's some strict scrutiny: The "vaccines" DON'T ****ING WORK!!!!!!!!!

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Old 10-15-2021, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Here's some strict scrutiny: The "vaccines" DON'T ****ING WORK!!!!!!!!!

Wonder why 100% on ventilators are unvaccinated at some hospitals?

https://www.reporternews.com/story/n...ed/5502857001/

"Today, 91.78% of our patients hospitalized are unvaccinated and 100% of patients in our ICU are unvaccinated," said Susan Greenwood, system vice president and chief nursing officer for Hendrick Health, in a news conference.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:58 AM
 
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Looks like Mandates have won US Supreme Court has decided to allow mandating of vaccines. I'm surprised by this I figured the right leaning court would block this.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rs/5953731001/
So do we know the argument why they refused to block it? This article doesn't say and just wonder if any of you know if there was some specific argument used.
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Old 10-15-2021, 11:33 AM
 
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It seems to me, the legal question here, is similar to that posed in United States v. Jackson, & cited upthread:

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The question is not whether the chilling effect is “incidental†rather than intentional; the question is whether that effect is unnecessary and therefore excessive.
That about sums it up.

Heck, even in the outdated JACOBSON v COM. OF MASSACHUSETTS case, the Court emphatically stated:

“If a person should deem it important that vaccination should not be performed in his case, and the authorities should think otherwise, it is not in their power to vaccinate him by force . . . "

Why do the COVID jabbers keep ignoring our nation's rule of law?

JWK
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Old 10-16-2021, 11:04 AM
 
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Wonder why 100% on ventilators are unvaccinated at some hospitals?

https://www.reporternews.com/story/n...ed/5502857001/
Wonder why you ignore the fully vaccinated cases.


Mass. DPH reports 3,741 new breakthrough COVID-19 cases, 46 more deaths among vaccinated residents

W.Va. Officials Say ‘Breakthrough’ COVID Cases On The Rise
“Gov. Jim Justice announced Monday that, over the past eight weeks, there has been a 26% increase in new breakthrough cases, a 21% increase in breakthrough cases requiring hospitalization and a 25% increase in breakthrough deaths.â€

Recent data shows 18.5% of new Covid-19 cases in New Jersey are fully vaccinated individuals, governor says
And in PA we find 6% Of Pennsylvania COVID-19 Cases Have Been Among Fully Vaccinated
â€The Tri-State region is doing better than many other parts of the country, but cases are climbing here too.â€

At this point in time it is pretty clear COVID is here to stay for a very long time. We need to learn to live with it by treating it, and screw the endless vaccine crap which is ruining our lives and destroying businesses, not to mention how it is being used in a manner which is abusive to our nation’s children.


JWK
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Old 10-16-2021, 11:31 AM
 
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That about sums it up.

Heck, even in the outdated JACOBSON v COM. OF MASSACHUSETTS case, the Court emphatically stated:

“If a person should deem it important that vaccination should not be performed in his case, and the authorities should think otherwise, it is not in their power to vaccinate him by force . . . "

Why do the COVID jabbers keep ignoring our nation's rule of law?

JWK
Regarding the pandemic, it's not settled whether or not the effect is unnecessary & therefore excessive.

Requiring masks does not seem, to me, to be "unnecessary & therefore excessive".

So too requiring folks to be vaccinated.

It depends on the circumstances. The science is not settled. Ideological perspectives are often based on 'self-settled axiomatic thinking patterns', I remain skeptical of such.
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Old 10-16-2021, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Boston
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if asylum requests take 2/3 years to determine the validity of those requests, how long will Covid religious exemptions take? Will the government be inspecting church attendance roles? I expect millions will be applying for them if Covid shots are mandated.
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Old 10-16-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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Regarding the pandemic, it's not settled whether or not the effect is unnecessary & therefore excessive.

Requiring masks does not seem, to me, to be "unnecessary & therefore excessive".

So too requiring folks to be vaccinated.

It depends on the circumstances. The science is not settled. Ideological perspectives are often based on 'self-settled axiomatic thinking patterns', I remain skeptical of such.
Well, just for your information, and with respect to the "rule of law", our system of law requires the protection of "strict scrutiny" whenever a government actions infringes upon a fundamental right.

Should the rule of law not be our guide in such matters?

JWK
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Old 10-16-2021, 12:53 PM
 
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Well, just for your information, and with respect to the "rule of law", our system of law requires the protection of "strict scrutiny" whenever a government actions infringes upon a fundamental right.

Should the rule of law not be our guide in such matters?

JWK
Don't be ridiculous, it's not helpful.
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Old 10-16-2021, 01:28 PM
 
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Well, just for your information, and with respect to the "rule of law", our system of law requires the protection of "strict scrutiny" whenever a government actions infringes upon a fundamental right.

Should the rule of law not be our guide in such matters?

JWK

Don't be ridiculous, it's not helpful.
Huh?

Please explain what you mean by that.

JWK
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