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What I think is we have 736k dead in less then 24 months to keep more from ending up dead we need get everyone vaccinated. However we get there needs to be done if that is a mandate so be it.
Courts don't agree with you that is our system we need the SC to rule so this can move forward the ones who refuse can quit their job others will be happy to fill those high paying Government Jobs.Most have already complied news reporting up to 90% compliance.
These are not all high paying government jobs that are being affected....where did you get that idea?? And you still believe everything MSM tells you about the compliance rate..??
Looks like Mandates have won US Supreme Court has decided to allow mandating of vaccines. I'm surprised by this I figured the right leaning court would block this.
What I think is we have 736k dead in less then 24 months to keep more from ending up dead we need get everyone vaccinated. However we get there needs to be done if that is a mandate so be it.
Courts don't agree with you that is our system we need the SC to rule so this can move forward the ones who refuse can quit their job others will be happy to fill those high paying Government Jobs. Most have already complied news reporting up to 90% compliance.
So, once again you refuse to engage in a productive discussion and ignore the QUESTIONS I asked.
Vaccine mandates are in line with the constitution and conservative principles. To see this one must look at the rights all all the people involved.
The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution of the United States of America establishes the US constitution, & federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, & even state constitutions. It prohibits states from interfering with the federal government's exercise of its constitutional powers, & from assuming any functions exclusively entrusted to the federal government. Although it doesn't allow the federal government to review or veto state laws before they take effect.
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Article VI
Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution of the United States of America establishes the US constitution, & federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, & even state constitutions. It prohibits states from interfering with the federal government's exercise of its constitutional powers, & from assuming any functions exclusively entrusted to the federal government. Although it doesn't allow the federal government to review or veto state laws before they take effect.
You are absolutely correct, and, the Ninth and Tenth Amendments reserve to the States and people therein all powers not delegated to the federal government. Essentially, we are describing "federalism" our Constitution's plan, which is somewhat summarized by Hamilton as follows:
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.
The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."___ Federalist No. 45
In regard to the comment made by Enough_Already which you responded to, "Vaccine mandates are in line with the constitution and conservative principles. To see this one must look at the rights all all the people involved", the poster's generalized and sweeping comments add nothing of value to a discussion in which the general welfare of the people is a concern, as well as their liberty and inalienable rights which hang in the balance.
Of course, if our constitutions, federal and the States', were observed and enforced, not only could the general welfare of the people be addressed, but, also the liberty and inalienable rights of the people could be accommodated as well. The problem is, our system's "rule of law" has taken a back seat to the foolishness and absurdities of a vocal minority which insists on imposing its will upon all.
You are absolutely correct, and, the Ninth and Tenth Amendments reserve to the States and people therein all powers not delegated to the federal government. Essentially, we are describing "federalism" our Constitution's plan, which is somewhat summarized by Hamilton as follows:
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.
The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."___ Federalist No. 45
In regard to the comment made by Enough_Already which you responded to, "Vaccine mandates are in line with the constitution and conservative principles. To see this one must look at the rights all all the people involved", the poster's generalized and sweeping comments add nothing of value to a discussion in which the general welfare of the people is a concern, as well as their liberty and inalienable rights which hang in the balance.
Of course, if our constitutions, federal and the States', were observed and enforced, not only could the general welfare of the people be addressed, but, also the liberty and inalienable rights of the people could be accommodated as well. The problem is, our system's "rule of law" has taken a back seat to the foolishness and absurdities of a vocal minority which insists on imposing its will upon all.
JWK
Disagree that comments by C-D member Enough_Already "add nothing of value to the discussion".
Agree whether the federal government has existing statutory authority to mandate vaccination in the context of COVID-19 is subject to debate.
A review of the case law reveals mandates generally do not require involuntary vaccination, rather they impose consequences on individuals who refuse to get vaccinated. (Please see Zucht v. King, 260 U.S. 174 (1922):
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A case in which the United States Supreme Court found that the school district of San Antonio, Texas, could constitutionally exclude unvaccinated students from attending the schools in the district
Additionally, Congress shares certain concurrent authority over public health matters emanating from its enumerated powers in the Constitution. Congressional authority stems from, among other sources, the Constitution’s Spending & Commerce Clauses.
If Congress were to apply its authority in the context of a vaccination mandate, it could encourage the states to enact a vaccination mandate meeting certain federal requirements by imposing it as a condition of receiving certain federal funds.
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