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Old 10-02-2021, 06:42 AM
 
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That is what happens when you let an election be stolen from the voters. Nobody respects America now due to that and joey of course. The world whole now laughs at us and mocks us
As a Libertarian who peruses both international and domestic sources of information. The whole world is shocked by our infighting and inner turmoil. That is both parties and the past two administrations. The real communist threat comes from a real communist country (China) and a dictatorship (Russia) who will together invade and conquer us when they sense we are too divided and weak to fight back.

I have big issues with most of what the left puts forward. But they are not communists and they are not the real threat to this country.

When will this happen? 2022 or 2024. I don't see how we survive after the mid terms and I certainly think 2024 will be it. China will take over and we won't even put up much of a fight. It will be like the fall of Kabul.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:45 AM
 
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The only thing "stolen" from the Voters who didn't like the Election results was their pride.

The term is called being a "Sore Loser".
I would have preferred Trump became President over the egotistical narcissist in office today. I don't know if the election results were stolen or not, it doesn't matter. What I question is those that voted for Biden knowing his historical bad judgement:
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...g-call/332431/

Yet to me, his cult followers believe his rhetoric and racist acqusations when he, in fact, was against segregation, against school choice and integration. The Trump haters called him a liar constantly, yet Biden has made many false claims.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...g-call/332431/

So if you want to call Trump voters "sore loser", fine. Those that voted for Biden should be called "ignorant voters."
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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As a Libertarian who peruses both international and domestic sources of information. The whole world is shocked by our infighting and inner turmoil. That is both parties and the past two administrations. The real communist threat comes from a real communist country (China) and a dictatorship (Russia) who will together invade and conquer us when they sense we are too divided and weak to fight back.

I have big issues with most of what the left puts forward. But they are not communists and they are not the real threat to this country.

When will this happen? 2022 or 2024. I don't see how we survive after the mid terms and I certainly think 2024 will be it. China will take over and we won't even put up much of a fight. It will be like the fall of Kabul.
Sadly you are right.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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I do not need Tucker Carlson to agree with the gist of the first post.

Disclosure: Am a refugee from communism, an emigre to the US, a naturalized citizen, and a veteran.

I can use any and all stages of my life to find something to agree with much of the first post and without using Tucker Carlson. I was active duty when the Berlin Wall fell, the Soviet Union collapsed, and Desert Storm called. When I was active duty, I saw things overseas from an adult perspective that I did not have at the first stage. I finally understood why anyone would proposition an American for his Levi's jeans. I pulled Victor Alert duty on a jet loaded with two B61 free fall nuclear bombs, and all I had to do was plug in the navigation cartridge to find out the exact coordinates for each bomb.

Marxism and Racism are what I see up/down the American society. I was on duty when the Soviet Union collapsed on CNN. Many in the squadron breakroom declared that meant the end of communism. I was the lone voice objected. But never did I thought I would see Marxism openly celebrated in the US Congress. I do not need Tucker Carlson.
A sweet woman I know who was raised in communist Soviet Union recognizes how Marxist the Democrats are.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:57 AM
 
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As a Libertarian who peruses both international and domestic sources of information. The whole world is shocked by our infighting and inner turmoil. That is both parties and the past two administrations. The real communist threat comes from a real communist country (China) and a dictatorship (Russia) who will together invade and conquer us when they sense we are too divided and weak to fight back.

I have big issues with most of what the left puts forward. But they are not communists and they are not the real threat to this country.

When will this happen? 2022 or 2024. I don't see how we survive after the mid terms and I certainly think 2024 will be it. China will take over and we won't even put up much of a fight. It will be like the fall of Kabul.
All this moaning and groaning about the Chinese communist. They got to the top of the heap on American dollars. We continue to enable them while we ***** about the CCP.

Americans are too unwilling to even glimpse at the other side to see the validity of their concerns. Perhaps if we would do that we could find common ground enough to not paint the others as evil that must be destroyed.

AFA schools are concerned, there are many things that could and should be taught by parents. If parents were doing their duty the schools would be no problem.

Knock on any door in your community. Ask how the water and sewage are delivered, treated and paid for.

And those neighbors vote.Bet most of them had yellow ribbons on their cars 15-20 years ago.
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Old 10-02-2021, 07:04 AM
 
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All this moaning and groaning about the Chinese communist. They got to the top of the heap on American dollars. We continue to enable them while we ***** about the CCP.
In the current $3.5 Trillion Bill is a line item for creating jobs in China, paid for by the American companies who in turn will be paid by us.

https://stauber.house.gov/media/pres...ending-package
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Old 10-02-2021, 07:21 AM
 
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All this moaning and groaning about the Chinese communist. They got to the top of the heap on American dollars. We continue to enable them while we ***** about the CCP.
China is the real threat. They have taken their country as far as it will go domestically. Their empire needs to grow and we are ripe for the picking.

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Americans are too unwilling to even glimpse at the other side to see the validity of their concerns. Perhaps if we would do that we could find common ground enough to not paint the others as evil that must be destroyed.
Anyone who dares to reach across the aisle is a traitor. But its the two party system. Its devolved to the point that a total distrust of the other side is the norm. The other side is fascist or communist and cannot be trusted. Although neither side really understands those terms.

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AFA schools are concerned, there are many things that could and should be taught by parents. If parents were doing their duty the schools would be no problem.

Knock on any door in your community. Ask how the water and sewage are delivered, treated and paid for.

And those neighbors vote.Bet most of them had yellow ribbons on their cars 15-20 years ago.

Lots of single parent or both parents work households. More than ever they rely on schools to raise their kids. Deep down the average person is not that different on either side. Both sides want a better America. But the radical left and radical right have hijacked each side to the extent that sane people get pushed aside. Its all soundbites and fear mongering.
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Old 10-02-2021, 07:26 AM
 
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Of course you Leftists would like to shut down any discussions about the Left’s socialism. The fact that there are many threads by different people saying the same thing tells you that it is real and happening out there.
I am not on the left but these threads just repeat the same talking points over and over. I have big issues with socialism and ever increasing size and control of the government. But these threads just repeat propaganda designed to destroy us from within. Its of Chinese and Russian origin. And you all eat it up like candy.

The threat is China and Russia. And your side and the left will not see this fact until they are landing on our shores.
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Old 10-02-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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Our parents' generation was asleep at the wheel while communists infiltrated every single one of our institutions. Years of dumbing down the public with communist public schools. Drugged us with pharmaceuticals and poison food, air and water. Brainwashed us thru music movies and all forms of media. Emasculated our men with vaccines and hormones. Dismantled the family and traumatized us with false flags. This is a generational operation.

It's just mindboggling that almost every public figure, in all branches of state and federal government and most corporations, are pushing full force to destroy our economy, our constitution, and our entire way of life; standing by while a criminally compromised puppet shatters our military, diplomatic and economic levers of national power; and cheering along while they collectively work to open the borders to millions of members of gangs, cartels, and foreign nationals we have been fighting a war against for 20 years straight, inject racism into every policy decision, and force the military, civil services, and entire general population to inject a deadly toxin.

Once again, it's been very well planned and executed.

I often wonder about this. I can't believe how far we've devolved over the last few decades. Up is down. Right is wrong. Left is right. Good is bad. As much as I enjoy bashing Dems/liberals, the current situation is much bigger than one political party, ideology, or generation. When I ponder our situation, I always come back to 2 things.

First, we reached a point where we were too comfortable. Attaining perfection is impossible. There's an adage the says that attaining 90% (the actual number varies) perfection is cost effective (in terms of time, effort, consequences). The last 10% is very difficult to accomplish and prohibitively expensive. Instead of calling it a day at 90%, we're trying to tackle the last 10%, which may not be possible. Idealists want perfection, where as realists know when to call it good enough. People who use one tragic event as evidence that the entire systems is broken are idealistic. People who understand that one event is not always indicative of systemic failure are realists. Right now, the realists are at war with the idealists. We want the police to make zero mistakes. If we pass enough legislation, we can make a meaningful impact on climate change. We want zero homeless people. Government should protect everyone from everything. Government should be abolished. Zero illegal immigration. Welcome all immigrants with open arms. All noble ideas and all unobtainable.



Second, the rise of the information age and instant access to a worldwide audience have given extremists a very loud voice. Many of us haven't yet learned to filter out the extremists from valid information sources. I'm not pointing fingers at any one group. Some young folks think Boomers had everything handed to them. Some Boomers think youngsters are slackers. On any given day, you can find both men and women who think they're the victims of marginalization because of their gender. Unfortunately, the people with the most extremist views get the most attention on the internet because it generates views.
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:06 AM
 
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I am not on the left but these threads just repeat the same talking points over and over. I have big issues with socialism and ever increasing size and control of the government. But these threads just repeat propaganda designed to destroy us from within. Its of Chinese and Russian origin. And you all eat it up like candy.

The threat is China and Russia. And your side and the left will not see this fact until they are landing on our shores.
You are the one who is eating propaganda candy. It is actually not Russia or China. They have plenty of problems of their own to deal with than to work on bringing us down. Now, does that mean they get satisfaction over the West declining? Of course they are. The West is seen as a major rival to them but again they are not behind any of this.

The liberal progressive (aka new age Marxists) movement is entirely homegrown. There have always been anarchists and communists in this country. It’s just that now they are not underground anymore. They give themselves a new catchy name “progressives” and use causes like blacks, the poor, gays and other formerly disenfranchised groups as their way to gain followers and power.

Hint: they are not really for any of those groups. They are only using them. Once the Marxist gain full control, all those groups will be in the same boat as everyone else, miserable and just conform to what the Marxists tell you have to do.

The reason why you are seeing many threads is because many different people are seeing this happening and are just reporting what they are seeing.
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