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Old 10-03-2021, 08:52 AM
 
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You can not eradicate a virus that has animal hosts. Already we know gorillas, minks, otters, tigers, lions, cats, and dogs can and do get Covid. Already it mutated in minks in Denmark and reinfected the humans that worked with them.
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Old 10-03-2021, 08:53 AM
 
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In the US, Polio had been eradicated. It's still around in Pakistan.

Small pox vaccine was discovered in 1795 and it wasn't until the 1970s that it was eradicated.
polio is still around in Africa, sometimes from contaminated vaccine. Smallpox was eradicated but there is still a large problem in Africa from monkeypox. The WHO did away with vaccinating for smallpox and did away with the vaccine but that vaccine also protected the people from monkeypox, a very nasty disease. So the younger generation, not vaccinated against smallpox, are suffering from monkeypox. very sad. but the white powers that be in the health world know whats good for everyone.
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Old 10-03-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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polio is still around in Africa, sometimes from contaminated vaccine. Smallpox was eradicated but there is still a large problem in Africa from monkeypox. The WHO did away with vaccinating for smallpox and did away with the vaccine but that vaccine also protected the people from monkeypox, a very nasty disease. So the younger generation, not vaccinated against smallpox, are suffering from monkeypox. very sad. but the white powers that be in the health world know whats good for everyone.
A small amount of a new small pox is being manufactured. Sanofi manufacturers ACAM2000. If they really want it, they should contact them. The manufacturers decide what to make based on demand. The original small pox vaccine needed a booster every 10 years.
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Old 10-03-2021, 10:17 AM
 
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Completely different scenarios.

The Salk vaccine was developed in 1952, and at that time there were about 25,000 cases annually in the US. Polio was eradicated in the Americas in 1994, so it took 42 years.

COVID-19 has infected 30,000,000 or so people in the US in the last 18 months, killing 700,000 at that time. It is fare more transmissible, and we have had the COVID vaccines available for about 6 months.

Do you really expect the covid vaccine to be able to eradicate a highly communicable virus instantly, when it took over 40 years for the Salk vaccine to eliminate a much less communicable disease?
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Old 10-03-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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It's been publicized a lot that today's mRNA "vaccines" for Covid, aren't like the older vaccines developed for other diseases like Polio. Those older vaccines killed off Polio completely. Once everyone got the vaccine, they could no longer either get polio themselves nor transfer Polio to others.

Today's mRNA vaccines don't keep you from getting Covid. They just lessen its effects on you. You are much less likely to die from Covid if you've had the shot. But you can still get the Covid virus and carry it, and can transfer Covid to others even if you show little or no symptoms yourself.

The present mRNA Covid vaccines are a major step forward. But a Salk-type vaccine, they aren't.

Are there any doctors or scientists still working, to develop a REAL vaccine that kills Covid dead and can eradicate the virus from the earth?
Follow the money friend.
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Old 10-03-2021, 10:58 AM
 
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You can not eradicate a virus that has animal hosts. Already we know gorillas, minks, otters, tigers, lions, cats, and dogs can and do get Covid. Already it mutated in minks in Denmark and reinfected the humans that worked with them.
according to the fda, you can give it to your pet, but it would be very rare for your pet to give it to a human. not to mention this is a man made virus. not natural. old gain of function research.

"A: A very small number of pets around the world have been reported to be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, mostly after having contact with people with COVID-19. Based on the information available to date, the risk of animals spreading COVID-19 to people is considered to be low."
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Old 10-03-2021, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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The polio vaccine is considered to be 90% effective ....what 'eradicated' the disease was that it was globally accepted and little resistance to getting it.

1955 Salk received federal approval.
1995 polio is declared to be eradicated.

So it took 40 years of vaccinating people.

AND they continue to innoculate people against the disease.
Oh MY! - ONLY 90% effective /s...and now with COVID vaccines ~95% and people turn their noses up. Just saying, people used to have reasonable appreciation (concern for) for diseases and for their treatments - now, not so much.
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Old 10-03-2021, 11:40 AM
 
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Oh MY! - ONLY 90% effective /s...and now with COVID vaccines ~95% and people turn their noses up. Just saying, people used to have reasonable appreciation (concern for) for diseases and for their treatments - now, not so much.
I agree - it would appear that certain people have lost appreciation and concern about the history of diseases and their treatments because they have lost their critical thinking skills and are experiencing a mental regression into a more primitive state of being.

I am genuinely beginning to wonder if the brain fog that comes with covid infection has seriously impacted the mental capacities of people who have unknowingly contracted the disease and have no symptoms of it except for impaired mental capacities and intellectual regression.

I'm not joking about that mental impairment thing. It is becoming more and more noticeable every day that something has badly effected the critical thinking skills of people everywhere in the world during the past nearly two years and covid infection is the only thing that can account for it. It can't be vaccines that account for it because the mental impairments started being obvious a year before any vaccines existed yet, let alone being distributed.

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Old 10-03-2021, 12:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I'm not joking about that mental impairment thing. It is becoming more and more noticeable every day that something has badly effected the critical thinking skills of people everywhere in the world during the past nearly two years and covid infection is the only thing that can account for it.
That's been going on for many years, decades. It didn't start two years ago with Covid-19.
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Old 10-03-2021, 12:21 PM
 
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according to the fda, you can give it to your pet, but it would be very rare for your pet to give it to a human. not to mention this is a man made virus. not natural. old gain of function research.

"A: A very small number of pets around the world have been reported to be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, mostly after having contact with people with COVID-19. Based on the information available to date, the risk of animals spreading COVID-19 to people is considered to be low."
WHO | SARS-CoV-2 mink- associated variant strain – Denmark

SARS-CoV-2 Transmission between Mink (Neovison vison) and Humans, Denmark

Preliminary report of an outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 in mink and mink farmers associated with community spread, Denmark, June to November 2020

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Mink-to-human spread of SARS-CoV-2 has been reported in the Netherlands, Denmark, and Poland, and new data suggest it might have occurred in the United States.

Investigations found that mink from a Michigan farm and a small number of people were infected with SARS-CoV-2 that contained unique mink-related mutations (changes in the virus’s genetic material). This suggests mink-to-human spread might have occurred.
Finding these mutations in mink on the Michigan farm is not unexpected because they have been seen before in mink from farms in the Netherlands and Denmark, and also in people linked to mink farms worldwide.
You can not eradicate a virus that has animal hosts. Denmark killed over 17 million mink in an attempt to stop the spread. We can not annihilate entire species of animals, and that is what would be required before we could hope to possibly eradicate Covid.
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