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He made our allies not trust us after not notifying them of pullout, leaving their people and our allies behind and giving Taliban 85 billion in weapons.
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Originally Posted by Blues4evr
You do understand that Biden didn’t inform Great Britain or France that he was withdrawing our troops, he ignored phone calls from England’s prime minister, both countries sent in their special forces to rescue their own citizens while Biden said it was impossible to rescue our citizens. England actually censored Biden. He isn’t bringing any respect back or peace. Biden is not bringing peace or unity back.
I seem to recall that he stated on national TV that to remain in the country, more troops would have to be sent, so he was pulling out the troops. We were there twenty years and though I do not know the amount of tax dollars committed to the flawed project, I am personally glad he decided to cut the losses. That region of the world has a history going back to when most of the world was living in caves where the locals were battling Westerners. I am talking thousands of years. Committing more lives and resources would only have wasted them.
Golly - could it be because he was also a president, and you can compare presidents?
First, it was ISIS (which Trump claimed he had destroyed ... ) that killed the troops, not Biden. You might also note that the troops were not the primary target; Afghani civilians were the target. However, if you want to say that if a soldier dies during a presidency, then that soldier was killed by the president, then by October 11 of his first year in office, Trump had killed 20 soldiers in combat, and an additional 10 through friendly fire or other war zone incidents. The 20 soldiers killed by Trump during his first ten months in office were:
January 29, Yemen: William Ryan Owens. Note: while Trump explicitly authorized the raid (primarily because Obama had refused to do so), he refused to take responsibility for it, and instead blamed the failure on "the generals."
April 8, Afghanistan: Staff Sgt. Mark Alencar. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony.
April 22, Iraq: 1st Lt. Weston Lee. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony.
April 27, Afghanistan: Sgt. Cameron Thomas and Sgt. Joshua Rogers. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony.
May 5, Somalia: Senior CPO Kyle Milliken. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony.
May 26, Syria: Spc. Etienne Murphy. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony, and his parents said on CNN in October that they had received neither a letter nor a phone call from Trump regarding the death of their son, even after Mrs. Murphy wrote to Trump to say she was still grieving.
June 10, Afghanistan: Sgt. Erick M. Houck, Sgt. William M. Bays, Cpl. Dillon C. Baldridge. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony. Trump did make a condolence telephone call to the father of Dillon Baldridge, and (bizarrely) said he would send the family $25,000 of his own money. Trump did not act on this offer until October, after the offer and the subsequent neglect of fulfilling the offer were reported in the paper. There is no explanation of why Trump offered this family, but no other, thousands of dollars after their son was killed.
July 3, Afghanistan: PFC Hansen Kirkpatrick. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony.
August 2, Afghanistan: Spc. Christopher Michael Harris and Sgt. Jonathon Michael Hunter. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony, although Vice President Pence went. Sgt. Hunter's father said he was told that he would receive a phone call from Trump, but the family never heard from him. Specialist Harris's widow said that the White House said it would set up a call, but it did not happen, nor did she receive a letter from Trump.
August 13, Iraq: Sgt Allen Stigler Jr. and Sgt. Roshain Brooks. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony. After Trump claimed in October that he calls all the families of service members killed in the line of duty, Sgt. Brooks's father stated that this was false, and that his family had never heard from Trump.
August 16, Afghanistan: Staff Sgt. Aaron R. Butler. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony, nor did he call or write to the family.
October 4, Niger: Sgt. La David Johnson, Staff Sgt. Dustin Wright, Staff Sgt. Jeremiah Johnson, and Staff Sgt. Bryan Black. Trump did not go to Dover AFB for the "dignified transfer" ceremony. For 12 days, while gong golfing and constantly tweeting about "fake news" and his opinion of the media, Trump never mentioned the deaths of these soldiers in an ambush in Togo Togo, Niger. When finally asked by a report on October 17 as to why he had said nothing at all about the ambush and the soldiers' deaths, Trump bragged about how he reached out to Gold Star families, and made false accusations about how Obama behaved in similar situations. In talking to the widow of Sgt. Johnson about her husband's death in an ambush, Trump notoriously said "He knew what he signed up for, but it hurts anyway."
Do you still want to say "thanks, Trump"?
The bold is the only thing worth responding too.....if biden would not have had to send them back in to get the Americans he forgot, those 13 would not be dead, so, nice mental gymnastics, that's joes blood.
And you posted a lot of other stuff with ZERO to back up your claim, and yes I did look up the 2nd bold comment.....
The bold is the only thing worth responding too.....if biden would not have had to send them back in to get the Americans he forgot, those 13 would not be dead, so, nice mental gymnastics, that's joes blood.
And what about the troops who died while Trump was president -- is that Donald's blood? As for sending troops back, keep in mind it was Trump who had removed most of the troops, and left only 2,500. Clearly, additional troops were needed to conduct the evacuation, so the mental gymnastics are all yours: If the Americans had in fact been "forgotten", then no additional troops would have been sent, and if you don't send additional troops, then you can't get the Americans and the Afghan allies out. So what do YOU think should have been done to make it better? Pull out in May as Trump had promised? Stay in Afghanistan forever with 2,500 soldiers, who would then be in violation of Trump's agreement, and subject to attack? Or do you have some bright idea that hasn't occurred to anyone else?
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And you posted a lot of other stuff with ZERO to back up your claim, and yes I did look up the 2nd bold comment.....
Since you are too lazy, and not bright enough, to research what I wrote, I will be happy to back up anything you question. Which statements do you think are inaccurate? Tell me, and I will give you backup for them -- it will be a delight to make you eat your foolish words.
Except it wasn't a "cut and paste". I wrote it myself, and you won't find it presented that way anywhere else on the internet. But I suppose the ideas of originality and intellectual competence are foreign concepts to you, aren't they?
Why would you say that?
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Instead, if you are a true Trump follower, you sit and nod like a bobblehead doll at every false thing the Orange One says, and snarl and foam at the mouth at anyone who presents anything that shows you that you worship an idol with clay feet.
Your useless attempt is noted, but false, sorry to disappoint you.
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There are no links because there is nothing to which I can link this, since -- as I said, and which you have so much difficulty grasping -- this is an original piece which appears here for the first time. However, if you have any intelligence and curiosity at all (which you clearly don't...), you can Google any of those names and get the details of their deaths.
This is the first time I've read it and no, there is no ability of grasping anything when this is the first time something is read. I guess being intellectually honest is a foreign concept to you. <<<< Not a question, that's straight comment.
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In other words, you thank Trump for killing 20 service members, taking no responsibility for their deaths, and ignoring or diminishing their sacrifice (because, as we know, Trump thinks those killed in battle are "losers")
Trump is a lowlife to have done all of that, and you -- since you seem to think that is appropriate, and even admirable -- are clearly another.
Again, where are you coming up with this? I Never said that, but if you'd like to quote me go right ahead, I'll wait, but if not, it's must more useless drivel spewed from the mouth of a devout bidit supporter.
And what about the troops who died while Trump was president -- is that Donald's blood?
Yep, just as all the blood is on ole' joes hands while he was VP and even now.
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As for sending troops back, keep in mind it was Trump who had removed most of the troops, and left only 2,500. Clearly, additional troops were needed to conduct the evacuation, so the mental gymnastics are all yours: If the Americans had in fact been "forgotten", then no additional troops would have been sent, and if you don't send additional troops, then you can't get the Americans and the Afghan allies out. So what do YOU think should have been done to make it better? Pull out in May as Trump had promised?
And NOBODY died in that 18 months while they were sitting at 2500 Soldiers. What do you mean "additional troops", there were no troops, ole' joe had to send them back in. Talk about mental gymnastics....
If ole' joe would have stuck to the plan the trump provided and not go around changing dates as he felt necessary, then we would be out. You do know that if you change an agreement without the others the approval, it's no longer considered binding.
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Stay in Afghanistan forever with 2,500 soldiers, who would then be in violation of Trump's agreement, and subject to attack? Or do you have some bright idea that hasn't occurred to anyone else?
Again, ole' joe changed the date, he wanted to be super cool and pull out on 11 September 2021, which basically made trumps agreement, null and void.
Oh, and yea, there is this thing called Non-Combatant Evacuation Operation (NEO) that was clearly not followed, hows that for a bright Idea, or HEY, even better, ole' joe (since the agreement was voided by ole' joe) listen to his generals to stay and then negotiate another agreement.
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Originally Posted by GreenWhiteBlue
Since you are too lazy, and not bright enough, to research what I wrote, I will be happy to back up anything you question. Which statements do you think are inaccurate? Tell me, and I will give you backup for them -- it will be a delight to make you eat your foolish words.
I was just reading about John Yarmuth (D-KY) retirement announcement and even Politico had a hard time describing what Yarmuth has been up to recently, since the Biden administration hasn’t had any notable accomplishments yet (and hopefully they won’t).
That being said, he is one thousand times better than that megalomaniac criminal Trump
Well that is a statement which you will have to justify.
No Marines died in Kabul under Trump.
We did not surrender Afghanistan and tens of billions of dollars in US military weapons and equipment to the Taliban under Trump.
The economy was not in shambles, inflation was not soaring, under Trump.
Illegal immigration under Trump was finally under control, and was not even remotely like the crisis Biden has created
France didn't withdraw their US ambassadors under Trump.
The UK Parliament just held Biden in contempt, they sure as hell did not do that to Trump.
You cannot name anything that is better under Biden?
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