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Old 10-09-2021, 07:11 AM
 
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New UC Davis study:

Viral Loads Similar Between Vaccinated and Unvaccinated People

I get that vaccines make getting seriously ill or dying from covid less likely. But they appear to do nothing to lower viral loads and the spread of covid. Just look at the UK. New cases have averaged over 25,000 a day for over 3 months now. They are not dropping:

United Kingdom

I am fully vaccinated. I think its smart to get vaccinated but it appears to have no effect on the pandemic. We are not going to end the pandemic if everyone gets the vaccine. That is a total lie that I hear being repeated over and over.

Its a personal choice. I don't smoke. But its also a personal choice. Our country is divided enough. Pushing people go get vaccinated makes that even worse. Lets just face the reality that covid is not going away. People who want the vaccine have it. Lets leave the others alone.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Eastern N.C.
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Why do you really care about the total number of cases?

Concern,yourself, with ICU level cases and deaths, both of which are greatly minimized from the vaccine.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:22 AM
 
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1. They already paid for them and can't throw them away.
2. They have to pretend to do something.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:24 AM
 
Location: NJ
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because the government has corrupted science to forward a political agenda.

Could not be more clear.

Persecuting people if not vaccinated though carrying antibodies while concentrating illegals in tight confinement to ensure covid/delta is spread among them and then dispersing them to all parts of the country. MOST OF THE 12 THOUSAND OR MORE HATIANS RELEASED INTO THE US, CAME FORM BRAZIL, THE DELTA COVID HOSTSPOT OF THE WORLD

In addition the Afghanistan air lift, included people not qualified to be aboard.

AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN ARE THE ONLY TWO COUNTRIES WHERE POLIO IS ENDEMIC IN THE POPULATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's stop kidding around, covid is a political tool wielded by the socialists who willingly sacrifice innocent lives to gain power and push their political agenda, They have essentially declared war on the USA.

Covid is real but has been weaponized. No different than using biological weapons against an enemy. Outlawed by the Geneva convention and worthy of charges of crimes against humanity.

Best strategy is to include truth in a big lie to confuse and befuddle the enemy, us.

Not possible unless the socialists own an official media propaganda machine, which they do. It is all about the media!!!!!!!
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Pushing vaccines is the one thing that Biden can hold up as a positive in his Presidency. The rest is an utter disaster.



They are pushing them so much because it is a distraction.
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Old 10-09-2021, 08:08 AM
 
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Why do you really care about the total number of cases?
Because that tells you the community spread of the virus. If one has it they can give it to others. We should have billions of at home test kits. Everyone should have more than enough to test themselves each day if they want.
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Concern,yourself, with ICU level cases and deaths, both of which are greatly minimized from the vaccine.
Enough people are vaccinated to keep the hospitals from overflowing. It does not matter at this point if a percentage of the population opts out of the vaccine. It matters to them personally but not in any other way. Lots of things people do that are much more likely to make them sick or kill them like smoking, drinking and poor eating habits. Yet we do nothing to stop that from happening.
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Old 10-09-2021, 08:58 AM
 
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At this point all the pros and cons are pretty well known. If a portion of the population wants to gamble with their health with lower odds, so be it.

I was fully vaccinated on April 6th. Ive been to Vegas three times, attended over 30 MLB games and own a bar. Despite all of that exposure I have not been sick. That's my experience.
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Old 10-09-2021, 09:05 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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If you aren't sold a shot, the pharmaceutical companies don't make any money...

Money, power, and control.


Did you know, in Europe, that natural immunity is accepted as being "vaccinated"? It's only in the US that it isn't.
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Old 10-09-2021, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Moderna two shots after 6 months has a efficacy rate of 93% coverage.





Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine mRNA-1273: Final blinded analysis of Phase 3 COVE study shows 93% efficacy; Efficacy remains durable through six months after second dose ​


https://investors.modernatx.com/news...2021-financial
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Old 10-09-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
New UC Davis study:

Viral Loads Similar Between Vaccinated and Unvaccinated People

I get that vaccines make getting seriously ill or dying from covid less likely. But they appear to do nothing to lower viral loads and the spread of covid. Just look at the UK. New cases have averaged over 25,000 a day for over 3 months now. They are not dropping:

United Kingdom

I am fully vaccinated. I think its smart to get vaccinated but it appears to have no effect on the pandemic. We are not going to end the pandemic if everyone gets the vaccine. That is a total lie that I hear being repeated over and over.

Its a personal choice. I don't smoke. But its also a personal choice. Our country is divided enough. Pushing people go get vaccinated makes that even worse. Lets just face the reality that covid is not going away. People who want the vaccine have it. Lets leave the others alone.
After everything that has happened since biden took over and you expect anything democrats do to make sense or to be the right thing!
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