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Old 10-11-2021, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Deploy the National Guard and US Army, including armor. Next time this trash pulls this, return fire with an Abrams. 120mm HE round would be a perfect response to this act of war. Light them up!

On a side note not sure if you were around in early 80's when the M1 was brought forth? AFRTS had a really rocking commercial for it! They showed it blowing up lots of chit to the music of Pink Floyd's Have A Cigar. Best watched totally wasted on a little JD & Coke!!
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:11 PM
 
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Yeah, it's usually more and more dangerous drugs as the years go by.




I hadn't thought about cutting off the drug supply. Wouldn't other criminals move in, though? If there's demand, there's bound to be supply. The Russians would probably love to get their chance at being the next drug suppliers.
In order to supply the demand, they would have to grow the 1000s of acres of opium poppies, (Russia does not have the climate to grow poppies)...


I still say, if these Mexican cartels can keep the ENTIRE US supplied in Heroin, those poppie fields can probably be seen from space!
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:24 AM
 
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This could easily be done by the US military and the justification is definitely there, (the toll on US lives)...
The justification is not there, or at best dubious. This falls under the commerce clause.

In a war, civilians do not buy the bullets or the bombs. But for drugs, the people are buying them, in other words, the people are 'asking' for the 'bullets' and 'bombs'. As long as the cartels remain on the Mexican side of the border and just produce the drugs, they are safe from US military response. But if the cartels begins to take a more active role, such as fighting against US LE on the US side of the border, then the US is justified under international laws for a military response.
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The justification is not there, or at best dubious. This falls under the commerce clause.

In a war, civilians do not buy the bullets or the bombs. But for drugs, the people are buying them, in other words, the people are 'asking' for the 'bullets' and 'bombs'. As long as the cartels remain on the Mexican side of the border and just produce the drugs, they are safe from US military response. But if the cartels begins to take a more active role, such as fighting against US LE on the US side of the border, then the US is justified under international laws for a military response.
Come on, as a super power, US never cared about those international laws.
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:28 PM
 
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Is that an act of war?
Well if it is why hasn't anyone else done anything about it?

https://kvia.com/news/border/2021/08...patrol-agents/

"This isn't the first time Mexican gunmen have opened fire on U.S. agents from across the border. In August of 2019, 50 shots were fired from Mexican territory at border agents on a boat patrol in the Rio Grande Valley; while their boat was struck by bullets - no agents were hurt."

This has happened MANY times before and no other president has made a big deal out of it.
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