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Old 10-12-2021, 07:44 AM
 
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Why did he put in an email?????
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The obsession of wanting high-profile names, at all costs, without checks. Gruden had a history that could have been uncovered. Urban Meyer already had a history, at Ohio State, with the failure to discipline his assistant coach caught up in a domestic dispute with his wife.
Well according to the OP, the NFL is a very moral organization and they only hire the best of people.
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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Gruden is not a victim.

He has a history of doing this. He made it uncomfortable in the locker room.

I knew long ago - when he was coaching Tampa Bay - there was something underneath that smirk….and it was not good.

There is no defending this.

Now get rid of Urban Meyer.
Yep, there was already talk that this influenced the Chicago game last week. Who knows? Of course people will dismiss that (I wouldn't be so quick to). There was another situation a few years ago where Carr suddenly got sacked significantly more the game after he wouldn't kneel with his fellow players for the national anthem. Could be coincidence, but maybe not.
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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"That little f*** got his own jet airplane. That little f*** is a millionaire."
Thankyou Dire Straits.
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:46 AM
 
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Why did he put in an email?????
Clearly he thought they would never surface. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:58 AM
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May as well fire every person, black, white or blue for their same comments and words.

Use the wrong pronoun and lose your job.

About time to grow thicker skin and realize people say things that may offend the activists and media that everyone else shrugs off.

When baseball and BB sell out America to China and suffer no consequence, Gruden's faux pas falls to the bottom of priorities.
A wise man once said, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone..."
Grace and forgiveness is a lost art. The baby is being thrown out with the bathwater as we become more irreligious.
Not a society I look forward to living in. Well, we're already 3/4's of the way in it I suppose, and this is what we get.

Everyone says or does stuff they shouldn't. Literally, every human being ever.
This is the glaring problem of cancel culture.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:14 AM
 
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Playing a game that was invented by an "old white man", a group LeBron himself has personally attacked.

If it wasn't for that game invented by that old white man, he'd be on a street corner in Dayton right now, begging for change.


Ironic, indeed.
lmao.. okay.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:15 AM
 
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Why would he be begging for change?
The dude can't even read - he isn't even literate. He'd be a homeless man if not for basketball.

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The moral clause that allows players who abuse their partner and children to stay in the league (Tyreek Hill). Or the one who allows drug abusers 20 chances (Josh Gordon)? Or the one who rarely hires black coaches and has zero black owners while pretending to be woke with a divisive black national anthem?

Oh yes, what a moral organization.
Dont' forget, Desean Jackson attacked Jews in a way worse manner just last year, and he's still in the league.


It's a double standard, and anyone who denies it is denying reality.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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A wise man once said, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone..."
Grace and forgiveness is a lost art. The baby is being thrown out with the bathwater as we become more irreligious.
Not a society I look forward to living in. Well, we're already 3/4's of the way in it I suppose, and this is what we get.

Everyone says or does stuff they shouldn't. Literally, every human being ever.
This is the glaring problem of cancel culture.
I'm not sure what "forgiveness" has to do with this? He's not being jailed or put on trial, or disowned by his family. He lost his job for what are fireable offenses anywhere (and have been for a LONG time). I don't know a single person who could write the stuff he wrote in emails and keep his job. He didn't just make a mistake, he made a number of them over a pretty long chunk of time. His commentary on league leadership, officials, and players, etc. calls into question his ability to effectively and fairly perform his job. All of us say or do stuff we shouldn't, but the scope of Gruden's commentary and the duration of time over which it occurred says it wasn't a "mistake." It was something he felt was OK to do. Repeatedly. Any of us would be fired in a heartbeat for doing the same in our workplaces.

Cancel culture has ABSOLUTELY grown to be a big problem. But this isn't cancel culture. This is pretty straightforward.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:18 AM
 
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So you're one of those people who judges the value of human being by their bank account? How do you feel about the Bad Orange Man?
No.. I just pointed out how ironic it is to say someone will be fine with $40 mill after being fired for bigoted comments and somehow Lebron is mentioned as an idiot when he is worth $850 mill.

and what does Lebron have to do with Gruden?
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