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Old 02-22-2022, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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America was great in every way under the last president. Under creepy Joe Biden we are totally screwed. He has destroyed everything he has touched and we are rapidly becoming a Marxist country. Those that continue to support the very obviously demented, corrupt, pedophile are supporting the end of America.
I know that you actually believe what you post, that is the very sadist part, you are sooo wrong, so terribly brain washed you can't eve see the truth in front of you.

Pray for America, it is rapidly dying with the help of you leftist posters in CD..
And when faced with high gasoline prices and long lines at the gas stations under Nixon: Everything was so great under our last President. Bring back LBJ!

Bush and the Great Recession: Everything was so great under our last President! Bring back Clinton!

And what oh what was so great under our last President, Mr. BankTrumptcy?
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Old 02-22-2022, 10:31 AM
 
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LOL. It's the right wing who openly practices cancel culture.
Ask Liz Cheney about that.
Ask the school librarians who are forced to pull books because some Church Karen is offended that a book has a gay character in it.
Are you talking about the one with pictures of a male getting a blow job? Do you really think that belongs in a middle school library?
Ask Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin about dems cancel culture.
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Old 02-22-2022, 11:43 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Complete bull####. The Clinton campaign refused to accept the results of the 2016 election and even went the route of trying to convince electors not to cast their votes for Trump. There were never any allegations of voter fraud made following that election just the vague unsubstantiated claim that "Russia colluded with the Trump campaign to steal the election for Trump"

Trump supporters have simply argued that rightly that state voting laws in key swing states were unconstitutionally changed without the vote of the respective state legislatures who are authorized to make such changes to state law. There were also several allegations of voter fraud made that were never actually investigated and brought to court due to "lack of standing" rather than a fair hearing of the facts of each case. Substantial Trump leads in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania around midnight of election night mysteriously flipped around 4 am when statistically impossible voting dumps numbering 100k to 200k which ALL went to Biden dropped suddenly flipping those races...voting dumps unprecedented in American presidential election history btw.

As for "saving democracy", one party has openly endorsed blowing up the following centuries old "norms" by proposing the following radical changes and it's not the Republican party pushing for... (1) Getting rid of the Electoral College (2) Packing the Supreme Court with a large yet undetermined number of justices in order to artificially and unconstitutionally guarantee their party a super majority of justices for at least a generation 3) Unconstitutionally granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico for the sole reason of guaranteeing three or four more Democratic senators practically guaranteeing themselves a Senate majority for perpetuity going forward. (4) Ending the Senate filibuster on all legislation (not just SCOTUS appointments) 5) Unconstitutionally nationalizing all federal elections with a voting law that would allow unsecure online same day voter registration without having to show voter ID making it virtually impossible to verify the identity of said "voters" and making it impossible for anyone to seek a legal challenge when evidence of potential voter fraud is suspected. Not to mention the law's push for universal mail in voting without having to show proof of photo ID along with all the numerous unaddressed chain of custody and ballot harvesting issues with mail in ballots that would inevitably result from such a massive number of mailed in ballots. To suggest that Republicans who simply want a full audit of the 2020 election results and a fair hearing of the many legal challenges are a threat to democracy rather than the party aggressively pursuing the aforementioned insane changes to centuries old institutions is hypocritical at best and downright insane at worst.
"The Clinton campaign refused to accept the results of the 2016 election" Totally false statement. Provide one example of how the Clinton campaign alluded that Russia colluded with the Trump campaign to steal the election for Trump.

"Trump supporters have simply argued that rightly that state voting laws in key swing states were unconstitutionally changed without the vote of the respective state legislatures who are authorized to make such changes to state law."

True some state voting laws were changed due to the pandemic, but how did this impact the results of the election?

"There were also several allegations of voter fraud made that were never actually investigated and brought to court due to "lack of standing." Bottom line, you need to have standing to bring a case to court. For example, someone in Texas can't file a lawsuit in PA alleging they were wronged by changes in voting laws in PA. It is a legal principle in this country.

"statistically impossible voting dumps" What you are referring to is the counting of absentee ballots. which legally couldn't start in PA until the polls closed.

"(1) Getting rid of the Electoral College" I'm 66 and this has been discussed at least since I was in high school.

"(2) Packing the Supreme Court with a large yet undetermined number of justices" FDR tried this in 1937, it wasn't successful. It would not be unconstitutional, the Constitution does not define the number of justices. It has not always been nine.

"(3) Unconstitutionally granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico..." Was it unconstitutional to grant statehood to Alaska and Hawaii?

"(4) Ending the Senate filibuster on all legislation" This rule is not in the Constitution, was accidentally created, and was not even used until 1837. All it does is stop bills from moving forward in the Senate.

"(5) Unconstitutionally nationalizing all federal elections with a voting law that would allow unsecure online same day voter registration without having to show voter ID making it virtually impossible to verify the identity of said "voters" and making it impossible for anyone to seek a legal challenge when evidence of potential voter fraud is suspected. Per the Constitution, elections are under the control of the states. This is not going to change without an amendment to the Constitution (which won't happen).

Did I miss anything?
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Old 02-22-2022, 02:06 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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"The Clinton campaign refused to accept the results of the 2016 election" Totally false statement. Provide one example of how the Clinton campaign alluded that Russia colluded with the Trump campaign to steal the election for Trump.
seriously?

Clinton Says She Was 'Right' About 'Vast Russia Conspiracy'; Investigations Ongoing


"You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you"
-hillarious clinton, 2019
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Old 02-23-2022, 01:06 PM
 
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Trying to destroy faith in elections and government institutions; paving the way for R controlled state legislatures to overturn election results that don’t go their way.

You mean using the courts? didn't the left done that to our FBI, Police and Federal government under Vietnam and then some and We are still here? Liberals really sound pathetic.


I guess when liberals question our elections and institutions by calling it Jim Crow on steroids, going after the entire police and military for decades, I guess that is Democracy. Thanks for the laugh.



This country was built to question the powerful and protest since the 13 colonies. We are still here. You liberals need a hug with hot cocoa?
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Old 02-23-2022, 01:10 PM
 
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Republicans aren’t interested in voter integrity, except as a code word for voter suppression..

for demanding I.D to vote. Yeah, from the party that supports massive illegal immigration and ignore our laws. Yeah, you Democrats are for voter integrity.
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Old 02-23-2022, 01:21 PM
 
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Trump is the only President in our history to (1.) refuse to concede the results of a lost election, (2.) try to convince the Justice Department to overturn the results of the election, (3.) pressure state officials to overturn the results of the election in their states, (4.) pressure his own Vice President to refuse to certify the results of the election and (5.) incite a mob to attack the Capitol to stop that certification and even endanger his own Vice President.

If America dies it will be due to cultists who feel that they can no longer compete legitimately and feel compelled to seize control autocratically rather than accepting the results of elections when they lose.



None of your 1 sided lies is against the law. The Post office didn't stop running. The federal government huge apparatus didn't stop working for even 1 day. The nuclear super power kept business as usual of doing their illegal acts and crimes in secret. So what are you talking about?




If America dies is because our government spends too much and spreads across the world. It has nothing to do with Trump.


I find it funny that you refuse to write the top 10 problems in our nation:


1) Massive illegal immigration for cheap labor and ignoring our laws
2) Homeless crisis
3) Drug epidemic

4) Massive government spending
5) Abortions on demand
6) Endless wars

7) Bad trade acts that hurt our working class for decades.
8) Bad public schools'
9) Expensive health care.
10) high suicide rate.


The list is long.







Those are the real problems in the nation that you liberals ignore but Trump is our threat.
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Old 02-23-2022, 02:46 PM
 
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The left is beyond hope. They did it to themselves.
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Old 02-23-2022, 02:48 PM
 
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Republicans aren’t interested in voter integrity, except as a code word for voter suppression..

There is no voter suppression. If there is - tell us who is getting suppressed (the actual people not some nebulous group) - and we'll make sure they get to the polls.
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Old 02-23-2022, 06:45 PM
 
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The biggest losers from the Bush era are now partisan democrats.
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