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Would having legal counsel on the President's staff draw up a six-point guide on how to make the VP ignore the states' certified electoral votes count as a threat?
Never happened. You people and your insane conspiracy theories!
I tend to think that promising to impeach the President-elect on election night, while media figures agree, is more of a "threat
than a 4 hour, mishandled, demonstration.
The threat to democracy was the attempted overthrow of our government on Jan. 6, 2021.
The assault on the Capitol was much more than a difference of opinion.
I have no illusion that Max Boot represents more than a sliver of the old GOP, but I concur with his reasoning. We are under an ongoing threat to Democracy that is unprecedented in American History.
Sure there will be those that make last ditch efforts like this to "save democracy" but I think most intelligent people know that it is far too little, far too late. Like Biden's Voting Rights Act. Democrats wait until 2022 to propose this? This legislation or similar should have been passed 40 years ago.
When you step back and look at it realistically, it's amazing that America has prevailed in its current form for 250 years. We came close to disintegration back in the first Civil War, but miraculously survived that.
Since WWII we've enjoyed many years of prosperity and security. It was a good run, but the "times they are a changing" as Bob Dylan once said. Ironically, not in the idealistic way he imagined.
You liberals don't know or understand the meaning of democracy. You want to change every Constitutional process to favor your party. You want to change every law to fit your agenda. You want to hide history because it offends you. You want to indoctrinate anyone that doesn't share your views.
Everything about the left is about a power grab to pursue a liberal socialist agenda. That is not democracy and it's a sad indictment on the mentality of the left.
Sure there will be those that make last ditch efforts like this to "save democracy" but I think most intelligent people know that it is far too little, far too late. Like Biden's Voting Rights Act. Democrats wait until 2022 to propose this? This legislation or similar should have been passed 40 years ago.
When you step back and look at it realistically, it's amazing that America has prevailed in its current form for 250 years. We came close to disintegration back in the first Civil War, but miraculously survived that.
Since WWII we've enjoyed many years of prosperity and security. It was a good run, but the "times they are a changing" as Bob Dylan once said. Ironically, not in the idealistic way he imagined.
The United States has had a greatly "asterisked" democracy (to use a euphemism) for much of its history, given that large shares of adult citizens were disenfranchised until long after World War II. Reactionary forces have been influential in this country ever since its founding.
What has changed more recently is they are now concentrated in one political party, and have a leader (despite his being out of elected office at this moment) who is especially blatant about his contempt for being accountable to the collective will of Americans.
Trump is the only President in our history to (1.) refuse to concede the results of a lost election, (2.) try to convince the Justice Department to overturn the results of the election, (3.) pressure state officials to overturn the results of the election in their states, (4.) pressure his own Vice President to refuse to certify the results of the election and (5.) incite a mob to attack the Capitol to stop that certification and even endanger his own Vice President.
If America dies it will be due to cultists who feel that they can no longer compete legitimately and feel compelled to seize control autocratically rather than accepting the results of elections when they lose.
Complete bull####. The Clinton campaign refused to accept the results of the 2016 election and even went the route of trying to convince electors not to cast their votes for Trump. There were never any allegations of voter fraud made following that election just the vague unsubstantiated claim that "Russia colluded with the Trump campaign to steal the election for Trump"
Trump supporters have simply argued that rightly that state voting laws in key swing states were unconstitutionally changed without the vote of the respective state legislatures who are authorized to make such changes to state law. There were also several allegations of voter fraud made that were never actually investigated and brought to court due to "lack of standing" rather than a fair hearing of the facts of each case. Substantial Trump leads in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania around midnight of election night mysteriously flipped around 4 am when statistically impossible voting dumps numbering 100k to 200k which ALL went to Biden dropped suddenly flipping those races...voting dumps unprecedented in American presidential election history btw.
As for "saving democracy", one party has openly endorsed blowing up the following centuries old "norms" by proposing the following radical changes and it's not the Republican party pushing for... (1) Getting rid of the Electoral College (2) Packing the Supreme Court with a large yet undetermined number of justices in order to artificially and unconstitutionally guarantee their party a super majority of justices for at least a generation 3) Unconstitutionally granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico for the sole reason of guaranteeing three or four more Democratic senators practically guaranteeing themselves a Senate majority for perpetuity going forward. (4) Ending the Senate filibuster on all legislation (not just SCOTUS appointments) 5) Unconstitutionally nationalizing all federal elections with a voting law that would allow unsecure online same day voter registration without having to show voter ID making it virtually impossible to verify the identity of said "voters" and making it impossible for anyone to seek a legal challenge when evidence of potential voter fraud is suspected. Not to mention the law's push for universal mail in voting without having to show proof of photo ID along with all the numerous unaddressed chain of custody and ballot harvesting issues with mail in ballots that would inevitably result from such a massive number of mailed in ballots. To suggest that Republicans who simply want a full audit of the 2020 election results and a fair hearing of the many legal challenges are a threat to democracy rather than the party aggressively pursuing the aforementioned insane changes to centuries old institutions is hypocritical at best and downright insane at worst.
You liberals don't know or understand the meaning of democracy. You want to change every Constitutional process to favor your party. You want to change every law to fit your agenda. You want to hide history because it offends you. You want to indoctrinate anyone that doesn't share your views.
Everything about the left is about a power grab to pursue a liberal socialist agenda. That is not democracy and it's a sad indictment on the mentality of the left.
LOL. It's the right wing who openly practices cancel culture.
Ask Liz Cheney about that.
Ask the school librarians who are forced to pull books because some Church Karen is offended that a book has a gay character in it.
We are under an ongoing threat to Democracy that is unprecedented in American History.
agreed. and it's coming almost exclusively from the left.
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