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Money being pumped into schools or the quality of teachers isn't a deciding issue on whether a child does well in school. The number one indicator by far, on whether or not your child succeeds in school, is parental participation.
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Originally Posted by jbgusa View Post
When the "discussion" runs to schools telling their children that their race or country is "bad" what does anyone expect?
I don’t see that being the case.
We know. That's what happens when one is uneducated partisan on the issue.
Money being pumped into schools or the quality of teachers isn't a deciding issue on whether a child does well in school. The number one indicator by far, on whether or not your child succeeds in school, is parental participation.
More money helps with student populations that lack parental involvement, since you need more teachers, teacher assistants, tutors, etc to get those kids educated.
Money being pumped into schools or the quality of teachers isn't a deciding issue on whether a child does well in school. The number one indicator by far, on whether or not your child succeeds in school, is parental participation.
More money helps with student populations that lack parental involvement, since you need more teachers, teacher assistants, tutors, etc to get those kids educated.
The problem is that the students need to be eager to learn or at least accept being taught. Where neither are the case no amount of money will help..
The problem is that the students need to be eager to learn or at least accept being taught. Where neither are the case no amount of money will help..
That's the problem - we're trying to teach students who don't want to be taught against their will. A colossal waste of money and resources. Part of the problem also is that a lot of teachers suck at or don't care about their jobs and don't have the skills to stimulate intellectual curiosity that is required to get someone to want to learn.
There should be alternatives offered starting at the high school level to traditional academics. They learn a trade and enter the workforce early or something.
More money helps with student populations that lack parental involvement, since you need more teachers, teacher assistants, tutors, etc to get those kids educated.
Major studies say otherwise. Detroit, Michigan and Camden, New Jersey. Money was pumped in and there was little change in performance. Plus you're addressing the symptom.
We do want the money spent efficiently but it should not cross the boundaries on what is the parent or parents responsibility.
The major cause of the problem is the rise in single parent families. Our welfare system encourages the birth father and mother to live under separate roofs. Teachers and tutors don't follow the kid home and live with them. The reinforcement isn't there.
The problem is that the students need to be eager to learn or at least accept being taught. Where neither are the case no amount of money will help..
Housdton ISD has had success adding teaching and wrap around resources to schools that have difficult to teach populations, but it does take a while to see an effect.
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Originally Posted by albert648
That's the problem - we're trying to teach students who don't want to be taught against their will. A colossal waste of money and resources. Part of the problem also is that a lot of teachers suck at or don't care about their jobs and don't have the skills to stimulate intellectual curiosity that is required to get someone to want to learn.
There should be alternatives offered starting at the high school level to traditional academics. They learn a trade and enter the workforce early or something.
The bolded has not been my experience in Houston. I agree there needs to be way more teaching of trade skills, instead of trying to make every kid a college student
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
Major studies say otherwise. Detroit, Michigan and Camden, New Jersey. Money was pumped in and there was little change in performance. Plus you're addressing the symptom.
We do want the money spent efficiently but it should not cross the boundaries on what is the parent or parents responsibility.
The major cause of the problem is the rise in single parent families. Our welfare system encourages the birth father and mother to live under separate roofs. Teachers and tutors don't follow the kid home and live with them. The reinforcement isn't there.
Then what's your solution? Just give up?
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
And the ones disrupting the classes are not disciplined so the students who do want to improve dont get the positive learning environment as much.
Again, in Houston ISD, that's not the case. Disruptive students get sent to an alternative school.
It makes you wonder if this is not exactly what they want, doesn't it? I mean, to have the low end all to themselves.
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