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Old 10-14-2021, 03:23 PM
 
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Yep and we were warned about this for years and here it is. There are really no old school democrats left and if there are their party moved on without them into Marxism.
I can't help but wonder if the Borg that helped usher this in will be sorry someday.
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Old 10-14-2021, 03:25 PM
 
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We see Communist tactics now . Smearing the other side. Cancelling anyone who disagrees with them. Pushiing their Socialist Communist Marxist agenda on the children indoctrinating them with hate the country. Pitting different races against one other in the schools, military, and indoctrinating them.


We have Main Stream Media, the FBI colluting to take down a sitting president. We have big tech hiding the truths and cancelling them including a sitting president. How is that for a Coup .



Pumping money into buyng votes to get rid of Trump in the millions of dollars.



It was all planned. DC is corrupt and wants power. They like the establishment democrats and republican rinos. That is because they all have their hands in the cookie jar stealing. The get rich with insider trading, kick backs, favors, and like the big money they spend . The are all growing filty rich.


Then Trump came on the scene , actually wanting to cut taxes, putting people to work, making China accountable, bringing back the hostages, and the remains of many from years ago. Stopping rockets from flying over Japan. Making other countries pay for us protecting them through Nato. Oh, this made all presidents look like they did NOTHING.


And of course the MSM hated him. The elitists were afraid to allow an outside to run things. After all Trump never held office and put many to shame. He was a good world leader, did not want war, used strong diplomacy and it worked. There was no Russian collusion. It was a coup. So what the fake impeachments to tarnish Trump to all those that are shallow thinkers or are brainwashed with years of propaganda lies.


We have witnessed a complete breakdown of our Constitution during this election. Laws broken . And not just the election, the border, the mandates, firing people ignoring the natural immunity of getting covid and many hundreds of thousands if not millions are in better shape than the vaccinated as far as getting Covid. Biden rather ignore the people and show us what a dictatorship is and is he getting bold. Allowing all those illegals in that are not vaccinated. Biden is the worse protector of Americans I have ever witnessed.


Today we have higher prices across the board. Many will struggle to pay their heating bills , the less fortunate Americans living paycheck to paycheck . The working poor will bare a larger burden of what Biden's policies have done to this economy.



I know the illegals will get better treatment than many Americans today. I have talked to many people over the years and understand how hard certain areas have it .. no good jobs, farther away from the larger cities.. homes crumbling , barely making it on a small paycheck .



Illegals I know get thousands of dollars to relocate. Not so for a poor American. No money for them. It is down right disgusting what this government has done to Americans. They are not offered free college. That is not even on their radar as they struggle to eat and pay their bills.



You think Marxism is good. Take a look at Cuba, Venezuela . Of the rich do fine. In Cuba they ration their food. Empty shelves.



What the marxists and globalists have done is steal jobs from Americans and given them to Communist China. Who do you think will make the batteries for those electric cars? China. Joe took big money from China as Hunter was the bag man.



It is build back better China.. not America. Opened border will make us a Communist socialist third world country destroying the middle class is their goal. It is progressing now to destroy us. Look around at the decisions Biden made. No oil production,no fracking, yet China is opening many coal fired plants and the are the major polluter of this planet. No restrictions there.



Wait until they halt the production of the gasoline engine. It is coming soon. The federal government is out of control telling what we can think, what we can know. what we can buy , what we can say. This is communism and you better comply. Your life will be destroyed if you don't.
We warned them about a system of healthcare where rich people get access and poor and middle have to wait. Concierge medicine is exploding.
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Old 10-14-2021, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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That does not mean there are no classes in a Marxist/communist society. But if in a society where there is no or little money, is it possible to be in a higher class than others?

Mao and Stalin were financially poor compare to Bezos and Zuckerberg, but Mao and Stalin had much more power and the best kind -- raw power.
The ultimate goal of communism is to abolish the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

Only right-wingers think Zuckerberg and Bezos are Marxists. The people on the far-left see them as corporatists trying to influence governments to further their interests. Their pretense of supporting BLM is just a calculated political game. The moment BLM becomes a threat they will support their opposition. Corporations always play both sides to keep things where they want them to be.

We are not witnessing a Marxist revolution. We are witnessing a bunch of corporatist globalists who are using neo-keynesian economics and the machinations of the federal reserve to enrich themselves and manipulate the global economy for their benefit.

If anything, the institutions of capitalism are more powerful than ever.
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Old 10-14-2021, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Denver
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The ultimate goal of communism is to abolish the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

Only right-wingers think Zuckerberg and Bezos are Marxists. The people on the far-left see them as corporatists trying to influence governments to further their interests. Their pretense of supporting BLM is just a calculated political game. The moment BLM becomes a threat they will support their opposition. Corporations always play both sides to keep things where they want them to be.

We are not witnessing a Marxist revolution. We are witnessing a bunch of corporatist globalists who are using neo-keynesian economics and the machinations of the federal reserve to enrich themselves and manipulate the global economy for their benefit.

If anything, the institutions of capitalism are more powerful than ever.
Bingo bingo bingo
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Old 10-14-2021, 03:46 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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The ultimate goal of communism is to abolish the state.
And replace it with what?

In answering that question, try not to go all pie-in-the-sky. Stay on earth.
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Just like definitions of what "vaccines" are, Marxism is collective mind rot whatever you call it, or how it's implemented.

This 20th century cancer of Humanity is coming to a boil, and we were warned:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPs...98224958738258

The Neo Marxist demented avenger subverted demoralized zombie LEFT are actively destroying our Country right before our eyes.

Good luck!
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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And replace it with what? In answering that question, try not to go all pie-in-the-sky. Stay on earth.
I'm not sure what you mean. The goal of abolishing the state is to replace it with nothing.
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:06 PM
 
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The ultimate goal of communism is to abolish the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

Only right-wingers think Zuckerberg and Bezos are Marxists. The people on the far-left see them as corporatists trying to influence governments to further their interests. Their pretense of supporting BLM is just a calculated political game. The moment BLM becomes a threat they will support their opposition. Corporations always play both sides to keep things where they want them to be.

We are not witnessing a Marxist revolution. We are witnessing a bunch of corporatist globalists who are using neo-keynesian economics and the machinations of the federal reserve to enrich themselves and manipulate the global economy for their benefit.

If anything, the institutions of capitalism are more powerful than ever.
Like I said in my post 57 that the Monastery is the best of Applied Marxism, even this society have 'the state': The Abbot, or Abess for the nuns. Someone must direct efforts and make decisions where there are conflicts.

A truly stateless society would mean a fundamental change in human nature where every human being is truly in the image of God: Selfless. Altruistic. Sacrificial. Loving. This society would exceed what the Bible recommends. If anything, the Bible would not be needed at all. All those four character traits would be genetic.
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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If anything, the Bible would not be needed at all.
Not only not needed, but unwanted.

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A truly stateless society would mean a fundamental change in human nature where every human being is truly in the image of God: Selfless. Altruistic. Sacrificial. Loving. This society would exceed what the Bible recommends.
Which is why it is called utopian.

With that said, statelessness is nothing special. Humans have lived in stateless/communist societies for almost all of our evolution.

PS: The question is not whether you can have statelessness. But whether you can have a stateless global industrial society of 8+ billion people. The truth is, once you get beyond Dunbar's number, cooperation can only be achieved through fear and greed.

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Old 10-14-2021, 04:35 PM
 
Location: USA
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Marxist Revolution?

Really?

It hasn’t hit my town yet.

Are there tanks with Soviet flags rolling through the streets of D.C.?
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