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Old 10-15-2021, 07:23 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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The stupidity of this is striking. I keep hearing, for various venues around my location, that you need to show your "vaccine" card or a negative Covid-19 test to enter concerts. Is this not ridiculous? So, unvaccinated people need to show a negative Covid-19 test, but vaccinated people, who are getting sick just as much as unvaccinated people, just need to show a card. Where's the science?

So, vaccinated people are still getting sick. We don't know how much because the CDC is only counting breakthrough cases that lead to hospitalization or death. But, a vaccination card is just fine!

You shouldn't have to show anything. If you're going to a concert, then you're willing to take the risk. But, if you're going to require proof of something, then EVERYONE should have to show a negative Covid-19 test. I don't care about your vaccination card, because it's worthless. It doesn't show that you don't have Covid-19.

And people are losing their jobs over this. It's insane. Yet, the vaccinated people can still get and spread Covid-19 around, and some studies suggest, that vaccinated people spread it MORE than unvaccinated people, because they carry a higher viral load. And they get to keep their job, no problem.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:35 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The stupidity of this is striking. I keep hearing, for various venues around my location, that you need to show your "vaccine" card or a negative Covid-19 test to enter concerts. Is this not ridiculous? So, unvaccinated people need to show a negative Covid-19 test, but vaccinated people, who are getting sick just as much as unvaccinated people, just need to show a card. Where's the science?

So, vaccinated people are still getting sick. We don't know how much because the CDC is only counting breakthrough cases that lead to hospitalization or death. But, a vaccination card is just fine!

You shouldn't have to show anything. If you're going to a concert, then you're willing to take the risk. But, if you're going to require proof of something, then EVERYONE should have to show a negative Covid-19 test. I don't care about your vaccination card, because it's worthless. It doesn't show that you don't have Covid-19.

And people are losing their jobs over this. It's insane. Yet, the vaccinated people can still get and spread Covid-19 around, and some studies suggest, that vaccinated people spread it MORE than unvaccinated people, because they carry a higher viral load. And they get to keep their job, no problem.

Thoughts?


some studies suggest?



WHERE's the science there?
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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Purpose is to vaccinate as many as possible. At this point, as vaccination appears to not be working, even in, technically, fully vaccinated countries, it became a goal on its own.
When this will be accomplished and disease will NOT go away, as it won't, goal will be changed to booster shot everyone. Every six months, 3 months, 2 weeks. Whatever.
Goal is to vaccinate people. Not to prevent disease. Disease will go away and become another seasonal virus when majority of population will get sick with it and get over it. This is how it ALWAYS was, vaccines or not. Nothing new now.
As this is a known fact, then goal of vaccination is to vaccinate.
What and why is y'all's guess.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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The stupidity of this is striking. I keep hearing, for various venues around my location, that you need to show your "vaccine" card or a negative Covid-19 test to enter concerts. Is this not ridiculous? So, unvaccinated people need to show a negative Covid-19 test, but vaccinated people, who are getting sick just as much as unvaccinated people, just need to show a card. Where's the science?

So, vaccinated people are still getting sick. We don't know how much because the CDC is only counting breakthrough cases that lead to hospitalization or death. But, a vaccination card is just fine!

You shouldn't have to show anything. If you're going to a concert, then you're willing to take the risk. But, if you're going to require proof of something, then EVERYONE should have to show a negative Covid-19 test. I don't care about your vaccination card, because it's worthless. It doesn't show that you don't have Covid-19.

And people are losing their jobs over this. It's insane. Yet, the vaccinated people can still get and spread Covid-19 around, and some studies suggest, that vaccinated people spread it MORE than unvaccinated people, because they carry a higher viral load. And they get to keep their job, no problem.

Thoughts?


Of course this should be the case as proof of being vaccinated means nothing as far as if you are carrying Covid or not- nothing!

That leaves only the possibility of control over people being the only reason for this totalitarian BS and there are other reasons for wanting you to have this injection in your body.

There is no reasoning or science involved in Biden's mandate at all if an honest look is taken at it.
The way they want it set up is to penalize the healthy while letting untold numbers that may be infected having a free pass.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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some studies suggest?



WHERE's the science there?
How is he going to link to the voices in his head?

If there are studies that say what the OP claims he would have linked them. He didn't because they don't exist.

Yes, some vaccinated people get breakthrough infections but they aren't the ones filling up the ICUs and hogging all the medical resources.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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some studies suggest?



WHERE's the science there?
There is no science in the mandate.
All it takes is common sense to see that.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:44 AM
 
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There is no science in the mandate.
All it takes is common sense to see that.
Science can never justify mandates. Mandates are always political decision. Since these vaccines don't prevent transmission, won't get us to herd immunity, they're absolutely one of the most bizarre mandate in history.

I believe it's all about driving up vaccination rates for some weird reason unrelated to public health.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:46 AM
 
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People are brainwashed. That is the only explanation I have for people continuing to go along with this nonsense in spite of the evidence.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:48 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Why are we pushing a vaccine mandate when vaccinated people are still getting sick?
It's a control issue. Mommy made them clean their rooms all those years ago and now they are taking revenge on the world.

If you have even an ounce of logic and you step back and look at this situation, there is absolutely ZERO need to mandate everyone have a covid vaccine--zero logical reason, zero statistical reason. Especially in light of the fact that it is becoming clear they are nowhere near as effective as a REAL vaccine. There is no more logic to this than there was to carry a pocket full of posies during the black plague. It's simply a feel-good measure for some people who can't handle reality. The thing is, what is developing with the vaccine is scarier than the virus. And where are you vaccophiles going to run to when it becomes even more clear the vaccines were a mistake? How many Band-Aids are you going to let big pharma apply to heal the wound the last Band-Aid made worse?
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