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Old 10-17-2021, 07:28 AM
 
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And some only live by extremes.

I worked in the corporate world for over 30 years.
There were some jobs where I felt I was undervalued and I left for greener pastures.

I was not a slave to any employer.

Sad to think people think they have to stay at jobs they don't like and pay crap.
"Sad to think people think they have to stay at jobs they don't like and pay crap"


"Reached his level of incompetence", as they say.
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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So this is a fake thread to bash Republicans.
Your mask is off.
"Your mask is off"
Been off with his first post!
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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John Deere will just move the factory to Mexico or China.

That’s the beauty of globalization and free trade: if your employees are too demanding, you just fire them and move the operation to a third world country.

If you think this is bad, it means you are a Socialist, Marxist, and probably a Communist.
John Deere has outsourced component parts to China and Mexico for years. I lost bids for the parts a lot of times, and when they came in unusable and they called in a panic I burned their ass for quick delivery. The heavy stuff they get domestically because of the cost of overseas shipping.

They will capitulate, especially in the current labor market, or the CEO can hit the shop floor and turn a few bolts himself to make Wall Street happy. Might do him some good.
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You equate unions with patriotism ?
I don't equate Capitalism with patriotism. The two are mutually exclusive.
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:32 AM
 
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And greed and corruption also played a role in unions like the UAW where it succombed to the Dark Side to talk in Star Wars metaphors. The plotline of the movie "Blue Collar" is still relevant today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfbX5dPODZs
It is no coincidence the no.1 visitor to the White House under obama was teh PRESIDENT of the AFL-CIO.
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Boston
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this is a business decision on the part of the employees and employers, both are free to to react in any manner they wish. The years of allegiance to an employee or employer have long since ended.
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Old 10-17-2021, 07:37 AM
 
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This.

One of the main reasons for exorbitant property taxes in many municipalities.
Public paid, thru the roof salaries and bennies. All thanks to the unions who basically own politicians.
"All thanks to the unions who basically own politicians.
Correction, DEM politicians!

https://rightwingnews.com › democrats › unions-give-more-campaign-to-dems-than-corporations-to-gop

That's right, unions give politicians money to make favorable laws for unions. Politicians then make favorable laws for unions so that unions will give them even more campaign cash and unions oblige so that politicians can then give them even more favorable laws and regulations. It's a vicious circle from which the voters are wholly cut out.
Teachers Unions: Top Contributors to Federal Candidates ...

https://www.opensecrets.org › industries › contrib.php?cycle=2020&ind=L1300

Inconsistent distributions between support of Democrats/Republicans and Liberal/Conservative Outside Spending groups. METHODOLOGY: The numbers on this page are based on contributions from donors (individuals as well as corporations and unions that give directly from their treasuries) to outside groups and from PACs (including super PACs) and individuals giving more than $200 to candidates and ...


Public Sector Unions: Top Contributors to Federal ...

https://www.opensecrets.org › industries › contrib.php?cycle=2020&ind=P04

Inconsistent distributions between support of Democrats/Republicans and Liberal/Conservative Outside Spending groups. METHODOLOGY: The numbers on this page are based on contributions from donors (individuals as well as corporations and unions that give directly from their treasuries) to outside groups and from PACs (including super PACs) and individuals giving more than $200 to candidates and ...


Unions Give More Than $1.1 Billion to Democrats, Liberal ...

https://www.dailysignal.com › 2018 › 01 › 05 › unions-gave-more-than-1-1-billion-to-democrats-liberal-groups

From 2010 to 2016 alone, labor unions sent more than $1.1 billion in member dues to anti-Republican advocacy groups, a nonprofit union transparency organization says. "For decades, union ...


Union Campaign Contributions and Political Influence

www.crosscurrents.hawaii.edu › content.aspx?lang=eng&site=us&theme=work&subtheme= UNION&unit=USWORK024

Union Campaign Contributions and Political Influence. Traditionally, labor unions give far more in campaign donations to Democrats than to Republicans. But campaign spending laws limit how much businesses, labor unions, and special interest groups can contribute to political campaigns. Today, labor unions contribute money and other aid to ...
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Old 10-17-2021, 10:03 AM
 
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They’ll just bring in illegals. Companies aren’t going to cave to the demands of the workers LOL
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Old 10-17-2021, 10:37 AM
 
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It is my understanding that the new contract states the traditional pension will be replaced by a 401K for any employee hired after November, 2021 (not sure if it is a matching 401K). This is the norm these days (at least in the private sector).

I am not anti-union, but workers need to realize the days of the traditional pension are gone. You may still find it with a government job, but then you still have a mandatory pension contribution (this amount depends on what state you are in). Florida's FRS requires a 3% deduction, while some states in the midwest are 8% or higher.

It is futile to fight for the "traditional" pension. It is a unicorn for new hires in the private sector.
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Old 10-17-2021, 11:02 AM
 
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And some only live by extremes.

I worked in the corporate world for over 30 years.
There were some jobs where I felt I was undervalued and I left for greener pastures.

I was not a slave to any employer.

Sad to think people think they have to stay at jobs they don't like and pay crap.
Sure we all moved around.

But 10K people frustrated with their employer is not one individual seeking greener pastures.

It's a concern.

It's not a Republican vs. Democrat problem in my books.

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