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Old 10-27-2021, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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It is well documented how the process was able to be accelerated for the COVID vaccine. Simply put, this is thanks to technological advances.



No idea what you’re looking at (probably disinformation) because it is contrary to the news I’m seeing, including this -

“After FDA nod, Israel gears up to start vaccinating 5- to 11-year-olds“

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tim...year-olds/amp/



???
Could be misinformation. Or older news. At a quick glance I'm not finding it now.

There is a lot of misinformation and mispresented information out there.

I found this from Israel with just a quick look, indicating I wasn't too far off the mark.
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Since July, it has also offered vaccinations for children aged 5-11 "in exceptional circumstances", including severe chronic lung illnesses and congestive heart failure. But while the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has been shown to be safe for children, the decision can be more complex than for adults. Since children tend to be less affected by Covid-19, even a small number of adverse reactions to the vaccine can make it harder to justify the jab.
Yeah, I was just thinking that being in good health doesn't necessarily keep one alive. I had an off moment.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:30 PM
 
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Actually you already missed out on that as Pfizer already completed test trials in children and the results were already submitted to regulatory authorities. It was reviewed by a panel of advisors at the FDA and gained their recommendation. The notion that now kids have to be guinea pigs is false…that ship has sailed.
As far as the side effects that may come to them a member of the
FDA Board says, "we'll see" and that's just OK I guess then.
Dr. Eric Rubin says, "We're never going to learn how safe it is until we start giving it,"

Recall not long ago there was no reason to vaccinate this group?
Still isn't.

Last edited by bluesjuke; 10-27-2021 at 03:53 PM..
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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How many of the 4500 kids did this happen to during the clinical trials? (Zero)
While Pfizer originally said they enrolled 4,500 kids, the trials were conducted among 2,268 kids. Small data set. So, if myocarditis presents in 1 in 3,000 boys (likely even lower than that, because the trials contained girls also), the trials wouldn't uncover that.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:34 PM
 
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Schools mandate all kinds of vaccines.
When the polio vaccine was mandated way back and thankfully for all of us and our kids, there was no history of the safety.

Parents had to take a risk and they did.
Same with measles.
You realize it took 6 years to reach 54% inoculated for polio?
This is also a risk of new type of vaccine with no long term dangers known or eliminated from the possibilities thereof.

This is not polio and has a high rate of recovery.
Kids aren't even getting flu shots every year.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:38 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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We could end up with a generation of disabled people because of this.
Yep. Possible. And if we do, Big Pharma gets the last laugh. They have ZERO legal liability. They've got to be loving a huge experiment where no matter what happens, they are not liable. I'd doubt even Dr. Mengele enjoyed such impunity.

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Do you work in the field and have a level of expertise to be able to weigh in on the efficacy of the vaccine trials? If not, then the level of arrogance in your post is astounding….not to mention that you’re also then asserting that this inadequate trial was able to somehow skirt past the FDA’s panel of advisors? Come on.
All it takes is a pair of eyes and a bit of common sense. That age group is at effectively ZERO risk from covid. Yet they are being vaccinated to prevent a disease with nearly zero risk to them. Years ago, a second grader with an introductory lesson on logic from a Dick and Jane book could have seen the stupidity behind that one.

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These people are evil, and so are the pr*cks who support this.
Exactly right.

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You have 94-99% of not being adversely affected at all, by relying on your own immune system!

WTH is wrong with some of you?
Four choices:

1) In denial.

2) Evil.

3) Blind.

4) Completely consumed with paranoia.

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It.

Is.

NOT.

Always.

Instantly!
That, for the instant gratification generation, doesn't compute. A sufficient clinical trial, in their eyes, lasts about as long as it takes them to down a double latte or log into DickToc.

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Originally Posted by NCSweettea View Post
Just remember this all you mom and dad‘s with kids in this age group. Heart damage is permanent. Scar tissue never goes away. When your child’s heart only operates at 50% capacity when he’s 20 years old and he comes to you and says “why did you let them give me that shot“ I hope you have a good answer for him or her.
They don't care. They are trying to make a political point. If that means every one of their kids spontaneously combust, so be it.

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They said the same thing about Celebrex. And Fen-Phen. And Bextra. And Baby Power. And....
And many, many other things over the years. All deemed totally safe.

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Almost none.
Yep. Near zero percent chance of more than the sniffles... yet we gotta jab them thar youngins! And it is always the self-righteous leftists who make fun of how stupid the "backwoods hick deplorables" are. Yet they themselves are making choices that even a Neanderthal would laugh at because of the simple-mindedness. Talk about stupidity. All for a fleeting political point and a show of power.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Could be misinformation. Or older news. At a quick glance I'm not finding it now.

There is a lot of misinformation and mispresented information out there.

I found this from Israel with just a quick look, indicating I wasn't too far off the mark.


Yeah, I was just thinking that being in good health doesn't necessarily keep one alive. I had an off moment.
Israel violating the Nuremberg Codes.

Ultimate irony.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:44 PM
 
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You realize it took 6 years to reach 54% inoculated for polio?
This is also a risk of new type of vaccine with no long term dangers known or eliminated from the possibilities thereof.

This is not polio and has a high rate of recovery.
Kids aren't even getting flu shots every year.
None of those now mandated vaccines were mandated within 5 years of their introduction/use. And those diseases don't mutate and the vaccines provide sterilizing protection. Polio paralyzed what, 15,000 kids per year? The truth is a kid age 5-10 is 10x's more likely to die of suicide than COVID. More likely to die from the flu, drowning, car accidents...
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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All it takes is a pair of eyes and a bit of common sense. That age group is at effectively ZERO risk from covid. Yet they are being vaccinated to prevent a disease with nearly zero risk to them. Years ago, a second grader with an introductory lesson on logic from a Dick and Jane book could have seen the stupidity behind that one.
Effectively zero risk of COVID? I respectfully disagree. More than 8,600 kids 5-11 years of age have been hospitalized and at least 143 have died since the beginning of the pandemic.

You’re also failing to look at the larger picture that the sooner the population gets vaccinated the sooner we can stop the spread and future mutations of the virus. Don’t pretend that the Delta variant will be the last wave of this, especially with so many people hesitant to get vaxxed.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:54 PM
 
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Effectively zero risk of COVID? I respectfully disagree. More than 8,600 kids 5-11 have been hospitalized and at least 143 have died since the beginning of the pandemic.
Out of a population of.....something in the 8 figure range.

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You’re also failing to look at the larger picture that the sooner the population gets vaccinated the sooner we can stop the spread and future mutations of the virus. Don’t pretend that the Delta variant will be the last wave of this, especially with so many people hesitant to get vaxxed.
You're the one missing the big picture. Something like 178 dead out of 50 million. More of that population have died from drowning in a pool. Did we shut down all swimming pools?

Don't pretend the death toll, while unfortunate, is a large percentage of the population.
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...11/8541330002/

committee member Dr. Eric Rubin says, "We're never going to learn how safe it is until we start giving it,"

Wow, that's comforting.
They pretty much just admitted that they are openly EXPERIMENTING on people with these "vaccines"
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