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Old 10-28-2021, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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True, but that has nothing to do with your statement, which was:

So again, I ask, what does the First Amendment have to do with school boards (not citizens)?


ETA: Wait, did you mean to write, 'school board meetings' instead of school boards?
School boards are government bodies. They may not limit free speech. If there is an open forum for attendees to speak, they may not shut it down over criticism of themselves. They may not allow one citizen to speak freely because they like what they say, and limit one they do not like. State laws often require they have these public comment opportunities at meetings.
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Old 10-28-2021, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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School boards are government bodies. They may not limit free speech. If there is an open forum for attendees to speak, they may not shut it down over criticism of themselves. They may not allow one citizen to speak freely because they like what they say, and limit one they do not like. State laws often require they have these public comment opportunities at meetings.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
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Old 10-28-2021, 09:24 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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True. But they can sure as heck limit it during a board meeting. That's governed by the bylaws of the board and local statutes. In general, public comment is very often limited to the public comment periods to a limited number of people for 2-3 minutes. Hooing and hawing and generally being disruptive at any time and you get the boot. After 2-3 minutes, you get the boot. I've been in some really lively board meetings. They all, nonetheless, have been orderly.
Two different issues. Disruptive behavior is one thing, but read the OP. The board is not allowing criticism of its members during those public comments. That doesn't fly.
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Old 10-28-2021, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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This is probably the only way to have a civilized discussion. You can't just have a free for all because nothing would get accomplished. I do think parents should be allowed to request a different meeting with them to discuss the issues they have though.
You can generally petition to have an item added to the board agenda. Depending on the agenda calendar, how pressing the board perseves the item to be, it might be a while or never or it may be the subject of a special meeting very promptly. Really, that's probably not surprising to you as you seem reasonable but some of snowflakes you would be amazed. World just revolves around them and if their very serious issue of orange cones being placed to block parents from driving on walkways isn't heard immediately they're gonna blow a gasket.
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Old 10-28-2021, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Someone DM'd me earlier and sent me this link. This is disgraceful the way these boards are shutting down any kind of complaints.


https://www.facebook.com/10000239368...7634656/?d%20n


ETA: I'm happy to see those parents filed a law suit:

https://www.ifs.org/news/pennsbury-s...cQinZguK3IAgo4

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Old 10-28-2021, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Someone DM'd me earlier and sent me this link. This is disgraceful the way these boards are shutting down any kind of complaints.


https://www.facebook.com/10000239368...7634656/?d%20n
Yeah, really not sure about PA but that wouldn't fly here. Board guy would be toast.
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Old 10-28-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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You can generally petition to have an item added to the board agenda. Depending on the agenda calendar, how pressing the board perseves the item to be, it might be a while or never or it may be the subject of a special meeting very promptly. Really, that's probably not surprising to you as you seem reasonable but some of snowflakes you would be amazed. World just revolves around them and if their very serious issue of orange cones being placed to block parents from driving on walkways isn't heard immediately they're gonna blow a gasket.


LOL That just made me laugh
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Someone can make a thread out of this one...

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...age4943788/pg1

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/sta...38479778959361

They'll send in the Feds when the parents go complaining to the school board. Biden's America.
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