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Old 10-28-2021, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Oh like when democrats cried about voter fraud a few years back lmao
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You guys need to send more astute and savvy people to monitor these elections. Apparently the ones you sending now can't get the job done. Maybe they are just scared of those mean 'ole dems.
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:40 PM
 
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There is zero evidence of widespread fraud.

So trying to find solutions to a non-existing problem is an interesting approach.
All reasonable people know that election fraud happens all the time. To state anything otherwise is not factually correct... The only question is how much fraud occurred and did it change the outcome. We’ll never know. Widespread, what ever that means, was not really necessary to turn an election that was so close in the areas that actually mattered.

The evidence of fraud is overwhelming, if you’re willing to look at it objectively that is. The opportunity is clear considering what is a significantly flawed system. And I am not speaking about 2020 alone.

The problem in 2020 is that you cannot contest the outcome and rules of the game once that game has ended, that’s why the challenges were dismissed. It had nothing to do with evidence as most of the time it never was able to be presented.

Did you even read the maricopa county report? Here is a summary. This was supposedly an independent audit, if there is such a thing anymore, the findings should concern every American. If the will of the people is not executed in a fair and honest election, our once great country will not stand long.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/09/24/mar...s-in-question/

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Old 10-28-2021, 06:41 PM
 
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You guys need to send more astute and savvy people to monitor these elections. Apparently the ones you sending now can't get the job done. Maybe they are just scared of those mean 'ole dems.
You just love proving my point over and over again I see
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:45 PM
 
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First you have to prove there is fraud to prevent before we make it more difficult to vote. Voting should be made as easy as possible for all citizens. Automatically register every citizen to vote. Automatically mail them a mail in ballot (people have been voting by mail since the civil war, with no issue). Give flexibility in times and locations to vote in person and to drop off mail in ballots. We need to stop putting hurdles in the way of people voting.
“Citizens”? Not one state requires proof of citizenship to vote, not one. Citizenship is not a hurdle to voting, it is a requirement which needs to be validated before any vote is cast by any method currently in play or any future method, like online, for instance.
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:53 PM
 
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Stop pretending fake, non-existent, fantasy fraud is real fraud. Problem solved.
With all due respect, you can’t be serious. If you want us to believe that the clowns running our government in this country are capable of conducting a fair, honest and fraudless election, I think you’ve taken up permanent residence in a fake and non-existent fantasy land.
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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me too. Anyay, it's up to the states to determine how to run elections. I think there's a good chance you'll see a red/blue divide emerge since increasingly the red part of the country has gotten a bee in their bonnet on the issue. Red states can get rid of it while blue states retain it. It's about as close to making everyone happy as you're likely to ever get.
lol
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Old 10-28-2021, 07:09 PM
 
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Old engineering axiom... Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
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Old 10-28-2021, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Yes, there is.
Where?
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Old 10-28-2021, 07:54 PM
 
Location: NH
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First, make election day a federal holiday.
Get rid of mail in ballots for those who do not have a valid reason to have one.
The ONLY people who should receive a mail in ballot are people who are disabled, and military personnel who are out of the country, and that's it.

As in years past, candidates running for office, made sure people voting their party, got transportation to the polls.
That was not an issue.
For those voting by mail, their ballots must be postmarked no later than the last day of October.
All mail in ballots would be counted, and accounted for before the general election in November.
The only voting on election day would be done in person, at the polls.
ID would be required for anyone voting.
If you can't furnish ID, then you can't vote.

The reason this is not being done presently is because it is much to simple, and those in charge want confusion so the voting public doesn't have a clue what is going on.
Seems like a structured, well planned process to achieve votes from people that actually care enough to take the time to make a difference.
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Old 10-28-2021, 08:21 PM
 
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All reasonable people know that election fraud happens all the time. To state anything otherwise is not factually correct... The only question is how much fraud occurred and did it change the outcome. We’ll never know. Widespread, what ever that means, was not really necessary to turn an election that was so close in the areas that actually mattered.

The evidence of fraud is overwhelming, if you’re willing to look at it objectively that is. The opportunity is clear considering what is a significantly flawed system. And I am not speaking about 2020 alone.

The problem in 2020 is that you cannot contest the outcome and rules of the game once that game has ended, that’s why the challenges were dismissed. It had nothing to do with evidence as most of the time it never was able to be presented.

Did you even read the maricopa county report? Here is a summary. This was supposedly an independent audit, if there is such a thing anymore, the findings should concern every American. If the will of the people is not executed in a fair and honest election, our once great country will not stand long.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/09/24/mar...s-in-question/
If you think the Maricopa County "audit" was independent, you are nuts. It was done by a Trumpster supporting organization by people who have no idea what teh word audit means or how to conduct one. That makes their report completely invalid an d piece of garbage.

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“Citizens”? Not one state requires proof of citizenship to vote, not one. Citizenship is not a hurdle to voting, it is a requirement which needs to be validated before any vote is cast by any method currently in play or any future method, like online, for instance.
How do you prove you are a citizen? If I stopped you on the street and asked you to prove your citizenship, I doubt you could do it. If you are thinking about requiring a birth certificate, or similar proof, that's already part of getting a valid State ID.

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With all due respect, you can’t be serious. If you want us to believe that the clowns running our government in this country are capable of conducting a fair, honest and fraudless election, I think you’ve taken up permanent residence in a fake and non-existent fantasy land.
Elections are run by local officials, and monitored by all the involved political parties. There is next to no fraud.
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