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Old 11-04-2021, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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CRT isn’t just a book that you hand out to students. It’s a methodology of instruction that bends the narrative of history into one of social justice. It exists, it has been taught for years, and the narrative has become uglier over time.

I think far too many people who don’t have children and have never pulled questionable learning materials out of a child’s backpack involve themselves with this topic. I’d be willing to bet that half of the people here in this conversation don’t even have any children.

 
Old 11-04-2021, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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It doesn't exist in schools, it only exists in the minds of the right wing. Starting off a thread with a comment from a Harvard right wing site isn't convincing anyone that it is included in High School curriculum.
Who said it's in the curriculum? Nobody's saying that they have "Critical Race Theory Hour" or a semester course on it or anything like that.

It's the integration of the ideology into the curricula and classroom which is the problem.

But you already knew that.

You're playing word games, as the Left ALWAYS does.

Ok.

Fine.

Labels don't matter anyway. Not to those who think... critically.

Call it whatever you want.

Stop teaching racism to children.

Stop teaching division to children.

Stop indoctrinating children.

Period.

This isn't a game, and I don't think you understand just how serious it is to the parents.
 
Old 11-04-2021, 06:29 AM
 
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Yeah funny how CRT went from its “not being taught in schools” to “it doesn't exist”

It's oscillated between "doesn't exist" and "isn't being taught." The NEA even adopted it, along with strategies to combat opposition to it, in its new business items. They attempted to scrub their stated purpose from their website after backlash, but the internet is forever: https://web.archive.org/web/20210702.../2021-nbi-039/
 
Old 11-04-2021, 06:38 AM
 
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It doesn't exist in schools, it only exists in the minds of the right wing. Starting off a thread with a comment from a Harvard right wing site isn't convincing anyone that it is included in High School curriculum.
Who are you trying to fool with that?

https://web.archive.org/web/20210702.../2021-nbi-039/


ETA - OpinionInOcala beat me to the punch as it were.
 
Old 11-04-2021, 06:51 AM
 
Location: NYC
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CRT isn’t just a book that you hand out to students. It’s a methodology of instruction that bends the narrative of history into one of social justice. It exists, it has been taught for years, and the narrative has become uglier over time.

I think far too many people who don’t have children and have never pulled questionable learning materials out of a child’s backpack involve themselves with this topic. I’d be willing to bet that half of the people here in this conversation don’t even have any children.
it's the same strawman rebuttal every time.

Question the border security. " You hate immigrants!"
Question Greta's Climate rants, " You hate Children!"
Question disproportionate crime rates," You hate Black people!"
Question CRT's methods, " You hate History!"

Most of the time it's the Policy/implementation being pushed to address these issues that people question. But the debate never gets past the hate reaction.
 
Old 11-04-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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Who are you trying to fool with that?

https://web.archive.org/web/20210702.../2021-nbi-039/


ETA - OpinionInOcala beat me to the punch as it were.

lol, no worries.


To be clear, however, it isn't the post-secondary legal theory that's being imposed upon K-12 students, per se. "Critical Race Theory" or "Critical Social Justice" is shorthand for what's sometimes called critical pedagogy; an amalgam of cultural Marxism, post-modernism, and intersectionality packaged for dissemination & instruction at the secondary school level.


It's at minimum anti-enlightenment, and at worst a form of both neo-racism and child abuse.
 
Old 11-04-2021, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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it's the same strawman rebuttal every time.

Question the border security. " You hate immigrants!"
Question Greta's Climate rants, " You hate Children!"
Question disproportionate crime rates," You hate Black people!"
Question CRT's methods, " You hate History!"

Most of the time it's the Policy/implementation being pushed to address these issues that people question. But the debate never gets past the hate reaction.
There’s typically very little substance behind these people. As you say they tend to go after the person questioning these things, rather than answer the questions being asked. Answering questions requires a body of knowledge that most of these progressives do not have. The more questions one asks, the more angry they become …. Because it becomes an issue of their ignorance, and that’s not something they can allow.
 
Old 11-04-2021, 07:00 AM
 
Location: NYC
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There’s typically very little substance behind these people. As you say they tend to go after the person questioning these things, rather than answer the questions being asked. Answering questions requires a body of knowledge that most of these progressives do not have. The more questions one asks, the more angry they become …. Because it becomes an issue of their ignorance, and that’s not something they can allow.
Even in the labels they use. Defining themselves into gatekeepers of morality.

"Progressive",...it's like,..whoa,..slow your role. You can't just call it that and then it IS that,..lol.

Like if I wrote a novel titled, " The Best book on Cat care" and if you question it I yell back,.."you hate Cats!" , it's like that
 
Old 11-04-2021, 07:19 AM
 
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CRT isn’t just a book that you hand out to students. It’s a methodology of instruction that bends the narrative of history into one of social justice. It exists, it has been taught for years, and the narrative has become uglier over time.

I think far too many people who don’t have children and have never pulled questionable learning materials out of a child’s backpack involve themselves with this topic. I’d be willing to bet that half of the people here in this conversation don’t even have any children.
This ^^^
 
Old 11-04-2021, 07:41 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Just a friendly reminder that CRT does exist but it is not taught directly in classes outside of a University or college environment. Instead the curriculum is "informed by" or taught in the context of "Critical Race Applied Principles" (CRAP). This CRAP is sometimes even taught in classes that have nothing to do with history or social studies such as math and science. Our fight is to keep this CRAP out of our children's classrooms.
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