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Old 05-18-2008, 09:47 AM
 
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No, problem, happy to help, maybe you'll remember it longer than 24 hours.


No matter how YOU try to spin it the truth is the Saudis, whose butts Bush has kissed at every opportunity, basically told him to go pound salt.
Are you not the same guy who on another posts suggests that we should not be drilling in the USA, something about screw the USA companies? Wait, lets recap shall we..

//www.city-data.com/forum/3800897-post6.html

Yep.. looks like its you. One posting you want to say screw the American companies, another posting you want to accuse Bush of kissing the Saudi's butt.

You do realise that your contradicting your own posts by criticizing bush for kissing butt, and then criticizing him for wanting to have our own country drilling for oil.

Perhaps you can offer a reasonable alternative thats affordable at the moment!!
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Are you not the same guy who on another posts suggests that we should not be drilling in the USA, something about screw the USA companies? Wait, lets recap shall we..

//www.city-data.com/forum/3800897-post6.html

Yep.. looks like its you. One posting you want to say screw the American companies, another posting you want to accuse Bush of kissing the Saudi's butt.

You do realise that your contradicting your own posts by criticizing bush for kissing butt, and then criticizing him for wanting to have our own country drilling for oil.

Perhaps you can offer a reasonable alternative thats affordable at the moment!!
Affordable alternative?

Perhaps YOU can first offer evidence that giving private companies access to public land will result in an affordable alternative.?

I see no evidence that if market price for oil is $150 a barrel that the oil companies in a fit of 'do doodism' are likely to sell it to the US at less than market price.

Just WHAT makes that an affordable alternative?
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:27 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Are you not the same guy who on another posts suggests that we should not be drilling in the USA, something about screw the USA companies? Wait, lets recap shall we..

Yes, let's recap.

As seems to be your habit, you comment on what you think you may have read and not what's there.

I DID NOT say we shouldn't be drilling in the USA.

IF you took the time to actually read AND understand you would know that what I suggested was : "Unless there are guarantees we'd be paying far less than OPEC prices I see no reason to allow private companies access to public land."


Just HOW do you twist that to mean "no drilling in the USA?"

So, YOUR suggested recap will hopefully tell you to read AND understand BEFORE you make irrelevant comments.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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When President George Bush went to see Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah in January to plead for higher oil output, he was politely rebuffed.

The rematch today is likely to be a great deal more strained.

If the Saudis deny help once again, they risk incalculable damage to their strategic alliance with Washington.

US-Saudi oil axis faces day of truth - Telegraph
No they don't. They know Bush is a lame duck and his party is in the toilet with the voters. They have read the polls and the stories about 3 straight losses for Republican candidates in "safe" Republican areas inclusing Mississippi. So they don't need to do anything for Bush except smile at him and send him home.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Affordable alternative?

Perhaps YOU can first offer evidence that giving private companies access to public land will result in an affordable alternative.?

I see no evidence that if market price for oil is $150 a barrel that the oil companies in a fit of 'do doodism' are likely to sell it to the US at less than market price.

Just WHAT makes that an affordable alternative?
That has always irked the hell out of me too. If there is oil, water or anything else to be had from public lands, the cash from the sale of it should go to the US Treasury and not to Exxon.
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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That has always irked the hell out of me too. If there is oil, water or anything else to be had from public lands, the cash from the sale of it should go to the US Treasury and not to Exxon.
Oh, great idea. The Federal Bureau of Oil Drilling.

Under the direction of heroic Commissar Kev.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:03 PM
 
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Affordable alternative?

Perhaps YOU can first offer evidence that giving private companies access to public land will result in an affordable alternative.?

I see no evidence that if market price for oil is $150 a barrel that the oil companies in a fit of 'do doodism' are likely to sell it to the US at less than market price.

Just WHAT makes that an affordable alternative?
I dont CARE is we give private companies access to public land as "affordable" alternative..

I prefer to give private companies access to public land for the purpose of no longer needing to go to the middle east for our oil.

While you dont seem to mind relying on arabs.. I prefer to rely on americans.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:04 PM
 
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That has always irked the hell out of me too. If there is oil, water or anything else to be had from public lands, the cash from the sale of it should go to the US Treasury and not to Exxon.
You do realise that the US Treasury receives money from Exxon in exchange for access?
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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You do realise that the US Treasury receives money from Exxon in exchange for access?
Rhymes with John Clease.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:51 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Perhaps you can offer a reasonable alternative thats affordable at the moment!!


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I dont CARE is we give private companies access to public land as "affordable" alternative..

I prefer to give private companies access to public land for the purpose of no longer needing to go to the middle east for our oil.

While you dont seem to mind relying on arabs.. I prefer to rely on americans.

IF you don't care about an affordable alternative why are you asking me to offer one?

Your right hand having trouble learning what the left hand is doing?
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