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I'm not a Republican, I'm a Conservative, but I too am guilty of this. I do occasionally catch myself, but I'm speaking to myself here as well.
I see this as a pivotable moment in our lifetimes, where the political pendulum is swinging towards the center. Let's seize this moment.
Let's all choose our words more carefully, and use the words Radical Liberals, and Moderate Democrats where appropriate. Let's more clearly delineate the two groups in our posts, as they are very different. Most Indy's, and Moderate Dems, are patriots like us. The radical liberal's are not...they hate America. Big diff.
The radical-liberal-leftist-socialist leaning junk that repulses us, is not coming from most independents, or moderate Democrats. It's coming from a minority of radical leftists who are hiding out in, or who have taken over, the Democrat party.
The Virginia & New Jersey elections shows us that the level-headed Indy & Dem voters are moderating towards the center. They are willing to stay home, or vote Pub, to help us to diffuse the radical left's momentum.
As 1 poster here pointed out to me in a rep comment, the whole Brandon thing thing strikes a raw nerve with the centrists, just like the Orange Man thing did to us. Let's try to rise above, & stop the Brandon stuff in an attempt to meet this Centrists in the middle, & promote a more civil dialogue with them. We need to let go
of our towards them for voting for P-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t Biden (see...it's not that hard).
If I stumble in this endeavor, please help me get back up...freedom is worth it. If we can do this here, and amongst all our interactions, it might grow, and make a difference. Look how close New Jersey was.
I think you're giving this forum way too much credit on the influence side. This place is for kicks and giggles. You've got a variety of posters who spend every waking hour here whining about one thing or another. These posters are simply looking for their little clique so they can get the echo chamber they crave. Most ignore any opposing opinions and just keep talking amongst themselves.
I hardly think too many independent care one iota what malcontents like that think. More than likely most are just looking for confirmation bias and get their marching orders from their favorite media sources.
The rational ones look at all sources and attempt to drill down on information instead of just being spoonfed by one source (i.e. Fox News, NY Times).
He is gone.
He is no longer President just like Obama and Clinton, both of whom gave speeches and campaigned long after their terms had expired. Obama still does. Bill would if he were invited.
Trump is not the problem. Your reaction to him is.
Partially agree. The problem with Trump, on the big ticket items, is the same problem with democrats. Increased spending, increased debt and policing the world while being involved in never ending un Constitutional wars.
I'm not a Republican, I'm a Conservative, but I too am guilty of this. I do occasionally catch myself, but I'm speaking to myself here as well.
I see this as a pivotable moment in our lifetimes, where the political pendulum is swinging towards the center. Let's seize this moment.
Let's all choose our words more carefully, and use the words Radical Liberals, and Moderate Democrats where appropriate. Let's more clearly delineate the two groups in our posts, as they are very different. Most Indy's, and Moderate Dems, are patriots like us. The radical liberal's are not...they hate America. Big diff.
The radical-liberal-leftist-socialist leaning junk that repulses us, is not coming from most independents, or moderate Democrats. It's coming from a minority of radical leftists who are hiding out in, or who have taken over, the Democrat party.
The Virginia & New Jersey elections shows us that the level-headed Indy & Dem voters are moderating towards the center. They are willing to stay home, or vote Pub, to help us to diffuse the radical left's momentum.
As 1 poster here pointed out to me in a rep comment, the whole Brandon thing thing strikes a raw nerve with the centrists, just like the Orange Man thing did to us. Let's try to rise above, & stop the Brandon stuff in an attempt to meet this Centrists in the middle, & promote a more civil dialogue with them. We need to let go
of our towards them for voting for P-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t Biden (see...it's not that hard).
If I stumble in this endeavor, please help me get back up...freedom is worth it. If we can do this here, and amongst all our interactions, it might grow, and make a difference. Look how close New Jersey was.
The political conflict in the United States is not between left and right.
The conflict is between workers and non-workers.
Workers want the border closed, trade deals that benefit US workers and no new wars.
Non-workers (include government employees) don't care about illegals entering the country because they don't have to compete against them in the job market, and if they can get a cheap gardener, nanny, etc., all the better..
They don't care about trade deals that screw US workers as long as Walmart has lots of cheap crap on the shelves.
And they don't care about new wars because they won't have to fight and they typically don't pay taxes.
Workers, on the other hand, will one day have to fight the Chinese military that US imports are building.
They will live poorer because most US jobs are subject to offshoring if US workers make demands that Chinese peasants and political prisoners do not.
The only real difference between left and right is positions abortion, same-sex marriage and transgenderism.
Most people that have an opinion on these matters rank the issues very low.
The open southern border is not so.
Pointless and avoidable wars like Iraq and Afghanistan are also something that people are concerned about.
Inflation that outpaces wage growth is something workers care about.
I'm not a Republican, I'm a Conservative, but I too am guilty of this. I do occasionally catch myself, but I'm speaking to myself here as well.
I see this as a pivotable moment in our lifetimes, where the political pendulum is swinging towards the center. Let's seize this moment.
Let's all choose our words more carefully, and use the words Radical Liberals, and Moderate Democrats where appropriate. Let's more clearly delineate the two groups in our posts, as they are very different. Most Indy's, and Moderate Dems, are patriots like us. The radical liberal's are not...they hate America. Big diff.
The radical-liberal-leftist-socialist leaning junk that repulses us, is not coming from most independents, or moderate Democrats. It's coming from a minority of radical leftists who are hiding out in, or who have taken over, the Democrat party.
The Virginia & New Jersey elections shows us that the level-headed Indy & Dem voters are moderating towards the center. They are willing to stay home, or vote Pub, to help us to diffuse the radical left's momentum.
As 1 poster here pointed out to me in a rep comment, the whole Brandon thing thing strikes a raw nerve with the centrists, just like the Orange Man thing did to us. Let's try to rise above, & stop the Brandon stuff in an attempt to meet this Centrists in the middle, & promote a more civil dialogue with them. We need to let go
of our towards them for voting for P-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t Biden (see...it's not that hard).
If I stumble in this endeavor, please help me get back up...freedom is worth it. If we can do this here, and amongst all our interactions, it might grow, and make a difference. Look how close New Jersey was.
While I pretty much said the same thing in a previous thread - I'm a conservative Democrat who just ignores the Let's Go Brandon. It doesn't push me away from Republicans but in the long run - I vote for the candidate whose hopes and ideals are most similar to my own - whether Dem or Repub - as should all people. I just don't think Republicans need to lower themselves like the leftists on here did.
Just curious: what defines "60%" centrists? Ballpark description is acceptable.
I wish I had all the answers, but I don't.
I nominate you to do define it....stake a stab at it....I'm listening.
We can start from here:
Centrism is a political outlook or position that involves acceptance and/or support of a balance of social equality and a degree of social hierarchy, while opposing political changes which would result in a significant shift of society strongly to either the left or the right.
There are far more democrats than Republicans and arguably more centrist democrats than centrist Republicans who are shunned as RINOs, censured, primaried, and kicked out of the party. Maybe the remaining centrist Pubs should be moving to the Dem party.
As a centrist Conservative (yes they do exist), I've voted for Dems before. I voted for John Kasich. I could vote for Joe Manchin or Krystin Sinema. I like Joe Lieberman. I like Chris Sununu. I thought Tulsi Gabbard was okay, & I was listening to Andrew Yang. I voted for Mitt Romney, who is a RINO. I voted for Ross Perot.
I prefer not to vote for seasoned politicians however. I like new blood with fresh ideas, and who have not been indoctrinated, or corrupted, by the DC machine.
People don't always have to change parties to vote for a candidate that belongs to another party.
He is gone.
He is no longer President just like Obama and Clinton, both of whom gave speeches and campaigned long after their terms had expired. Obama still does. Bill would if he were invited.
Trump is not the problem. Your reaction to him is.
I'm with you, which is why I've posted that it shouldn't be right versus left going after one another, it should be all of us going after politicians who line their own pockets while taxing us more and more.
I also posted this some months ago when someone said she regretted voting for Biden and a lot of people went after her saying his election was her fault and she had blood on her hands:
I have respect for people who are curious enough to find out the truth by watching hearings, reading legitimate documents, and changing their minds based on facts instead of just believing news.
I AM one of those people.
Aha! ^^^ this is what we need more of. People will reject polarization, while those doing the polarizing, fleece us all.
If that’s the thread I’m thinking of, people went after her because she kept posting threads about how Trump was so awful and immoral and she couldn’t bring herself to vote for someone who was so mean...
...and then came crying about Joe.
We tried to tell her, and she thought she knew better than us.
Everybody has the right to change their minds, and repent....no? I admire her for admitting she made an error in judgement. Haven't we all?
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towards them for voting for P-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t Biden (see...it's not that hard). 
He is gone.
