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View Poll Results: Is it a good idea to covid vax 5 to 11 year olds?
Yes, make it mandatory for public schools! 18 14.88%
Yes, but optional. 10 8.26%
Unsure. 6 4.96%
No. 87 71.90%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-08-2021, 04:44 PM
 
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Absolutely not. The parents should be the ones to decide for their own kids only.

If you let your children swim, you shouldn't be worried about their COVID risk.

Children's risk of catching COVID and having anything happen to them is effectively zero. Death? You'd have to go about 6 decimal places to get a number greater than zero.

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Old 11-08-2021, 04:52 PM
 
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The point in making vaccines mandatory to attend public schools isn't solely for the benefit of the child receiving the vaccine, although it does lessen their chances of getting seriously ill. It is also to prevent them from spreading disease to other children (who may be more vulnerable), and teachers and staff they come in contact with (who may be more vulnerable), and to lessen the number of vectors in which disease can spread throughout the community.
Since children can get severely ill from the vax, one has to ask what's the absolute risk to the children from being vaccinated?

Also, being vaccinated doesn't stop you from catching it or spreading it. Are you living under a rock?
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Old 11-08-2021, 04:56 PM
 
Location: STL area
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I’m not in favor of mandates. I think testing is adequate in almost all situations. But I would vaccinate mine now if he hadn’t had Covid recently. He didn’t get very sick thankfully, but he does have a risk factor. I will vaccinate him eventually but I’m happy with his natural immunity for now. My teens are vaccinated.
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Old 11-08-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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Anybody, who answers either Yes or No, should not be allowed to vote.
Why?

People have kids and have to make a decision. Waiting is effectively a no until the mind is changed to a yes.
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:03 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Since children can get severely ill from the vax, one has to ask what's the absolute risk to the children from being vaccinated?

Also, being vaccinated doesn't stop you from catching it or spreading it. Are you living under a rock?
Despite a tone of sub-optimal courtesy in your last sentence, I am responding to your message as follows:

1. The Harvard and Yale medical school links below discuss your concern. Parents need to discuss those concerns with their doctor.
2. The peer-reviewed Lancet journal discusses how there is less viral shedding in vaccinated people when compared to unvaccinated.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...648-4/fulltext

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...vaccine%20dose.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/co...r-ages-5-to-11
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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We can't "vaccinate" away an ever mutating respiratory Corona virus that reservoirs in ANIMALS and Humans.

Can't square a circle either.

Jabbing the children with these unnecessary unproven mRNA experimental potions is abhorrent!

Nuremberg Codes OUT THE WINDOW!!!
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:06 PM
 
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Yes, absolutely, we must protect the vaccinated adults at all cost.
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:09 PM
 
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Despite a tone of sub-optimal courtesy in your last sentence, I am responding to your message as follows:

1. The Harvard and Yale medical school links below discuss your concern. Parents need to discuss those concerns with their doctor.
2. The peer-reviewed Lancet journal discusses how there is less viral shedding in vaccinated people when compared to unvaccinated.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...648-4/fulltext

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...vaccine%20dose.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/co...r-ages-5-to-11
1) They're just quoting Pfizer's results. You can put Harvard around crap, but it's still crap. In this case, Pfizer's clinical results are crap.

2) From your study:

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SAR among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% [95% CI 15–35] for vaccinated vs 23% [15–31] for unvaccinated).
There was no statistical difference. I know you don't understand statistics, so let me help you.

CI stands for "Confidence Interval" and 95 stands for 95% confidence that results were not from statistical chance. The bands are 15-35 and 15-31, meaning they almost completely overlap.

What were you saying again, wanna try and educate me some more?
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:14 PM
 
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Where did you get your medical degree?
Strike 2 for you. You realize the lead author on your lancet study has no medical degree? These questions are for scientists, not necessarily doctors.

The question is not where I got my medical degree, but which school gave you a degree at all?
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Old 11-08-2021, 07:06 PM
 
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Why?

People have kids and have to make a decision. Waiting is effectively a no until the mind is changed to a yes.
It is how you ask your question.

Is it a good idea? Nobody knows. The science on this is not conclusive.

I think you meant to ask, “Would you have your children vaccinated?”
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