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Old 11-09-2021, 02:45 PM
Status: "I've got a fightin' side a mile wide but I pray for peace" (set 9 days ago)
 
Location: Florida
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The rest of us who don’t want to secede. The vast majority. It’s not presumptuous it’s a mathematical fact.
Read and Listen to this... https://thehill.com/changing-america...ns-now-want-to
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Old 11-09-2021, 03:59 PM
 
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Uh huh. 37% of self identified respondents. Like I said the overwhelming majority doesn’t want to secede.
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:04 PM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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The problem is a thing called interstate commerce.
Yes, another good example of federal overreach.
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Westerner92 View Post
The problem is a thing called interstate commerce.

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Yes, another good example of federal overreach.
Some of the very first decisions of the Supreme Court, before the ink was barely dry on the Constitution, validated interstate commerce as within the jurisdiction of the federal government.
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:09 PM
 
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”We’re not there yet, but if there comes a point where it’s hopeless, we take NASA, we take the military, we take the oil.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...less-in-the-us

“If I don’t get my way, I’ll take my toys and go home!”

Ted being Ted, and playing to the yokels. The problem for him is Texas is changing too. It’s gone from +23R to +6R since 2004.
LOL -- so why does Texas take any federal programs ?
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:11 PM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Originally Posted by Westerner92 View Post
The problem is a thing called interstate commerce.



Some of the very first decisions of the Supreme Court, before the ink was barely dry on the Constitution, validated interstate commerce as within the jurisdiction of the federal government.
And then the feds went on to abuse it and expand it's purview mightily. I'm under no illusions that we will ever get a strong rebalancing of power between the feds and the states. The feds have the power and will never give it up, at least not with our current voting tendencies, but such a rebalance would end the need for secession by anyone, Cali or Texas or anywhere in between, and interstate commerce is not a magic bogeyman that forbids it from happening.
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Why should Texas stay if its taxation without representation?
What the hell is Ted's job? He IS the representation. So is the other senator from TX, and all of the members of the House. If your representation sucks, elect better representation!
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:12 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I don't know if Cruz was just being hyperbolic or really means it. I know that he can sometimes grand stand a bit too much for my liking at times. I don't like hearing this kind of talk from a sitting Senator.
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:14 PM
 
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I don't know if Cruz was just being hyperbolic or really means it. I know that he can sometimes grand stand a bit too much for my liking at times. I don't like hearing this kind of talk from a sitting Senator.
Maybe he’s trying to distract from his fight with a costumed character on a preschoolers show.
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Maybe he’s trying to distract from his fight with a costumed character on a preschoolers show.
"Yeah, well Big Bird started it!"

-Ted Cruz
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