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Old 11-09-2021, 11:43 AM
 
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Have long time close friends in Qanon and some NAR religious orgs. Look up Qanon casualties on reddit or Qult on reddit and you will see the fallout of the people affected by family and friends involved in Qanon.

If I hear one more thing or get one more text about the military ops, Trump as our shadow president, Trump being re instated and now installing med beds (look up qanon med beds - will blow your mind) and all the medical miracles the deep state with held from us, JFK Jr and Trump as king of kings I think I am going to check myself into an asylum. You don't just dump family (lucky here) or friends (that's me) from years of association but it makes you crazy.

I can't take hearing the man's name. If he is on the 2024 ticket will do a write in.

Voted for him last 2 elections (2020 with nose held). I cannot take him again after this trauma. "There's something about that name...."(song)

 
Old 11-09-2021, 11:44 AM
 
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Trump as a person is a total a**hole but I liked his policies. Biden is a lot like Carter, Nice guy, but a terrible President. Unfortunately most Americans could care less that the country will continue its desend to mediocrity as long as the person in charge is nice ( or in recent cases, based on the persons race or gender ).
Nice as “you are a dogfaced liar” type of nice?

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Old 11-09-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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There's plenty of people that won't like any president so why is Trump hate any different? What is it about him? Couldn't what you said could be said for any president? For instance there are plenty of dems that don't like Biden.
It isn't hate, it's criticism.

For one thing, it's amorality and lack of character. No one as amoral and lacking in character as Trump is should ever have been nominated let alone elected.

The same is true of Biden and Hillary.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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It seems everything y'all say he did, he didn't do. Y'all tried to claim Russian collusion. That's been proven wrong.
Collusion was not proven, but Trump has a long history of being financed by Russian sources, and supporting Russian causes like the breakup of NATO. I liked Republicans better when they stood for success, but Trump was a bankrupt failure who couldn't get US banks to back him after his disastrous business ventures, so he turned to lowlife Russian oligarchs. I associate failure with Socialists and the ex-Communists who invested in Trump's failures. But seems like you're ok with these losers, so you're following the principles of far left Dems.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 11:55 AM
 
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Collusion was not proven, but Trump has a long history of being financed by Russian sources, and supporting Russian causes like the breakup of NATO. I liked Republicans better when they stood for success, but Trump was a bankrupt failure who couldn't get US banks to back him after his disastrous business ventures, so he turned to lowlife Russian oligarchs. I associate failure with Socialists and the ex-Communists who invested in Trump's failures. But seems like you're ok with these losers, so you're following the principles of far left Dems.

well there's that but he is a great cheerleader
 
Old 11-09-2021, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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He pulled out of the Paris climate accord and pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. The bad part was he didn't bother to consult any subject matter experts before doing it. No care of what the consequences would be. We lost a lot of respect from other countries.
and the only real problem with either action was failure to articulate them properly.

Paris - whether in the accord or not, have we been making real progress? Yes. Was the 2nd largest economy in the world, and now world's largest polluter held to the same standard? No.

Play with this chart: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-em...ns-by-country/

US - 14th largest decline. 16th per capita. Half as much as China, with a larger economy. Is it "great", is it "all we can do"? No. But why are we always the one hectored over what we're doing when we are improving?

Iran - they were already in violation when we pulled out. What, they were suddenly going to change their ways? Did that $1.7B in cash make them behave?

It's just like the UN and European defense. Why are we expected to pay far more than our fair share for the world's problems?
 
Old 11-09-2021, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Why don't you let Dems speak for themselves. Your personal impression of what you think Dems think, is just your personal impression.
I have been listening the dems speak for over four years about Trump, and yet, that isn't enough for you?
 
Old 11-09-2021, 12:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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I was pretty indifferent to Trump until he politicized mask-wearing, social distancing, and other policies to slow the pandemic. The virus doesn’t care whether you’re a Republican or Democrat, it just spreads.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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He pulled out of the Paris climate accord and pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. The bad part was he didn't bother to consult any subject matter experts before doing it. No care of what the consequences would be. We lost a lot of respect from other countries.
and we have been massively lowering our carbon footprint all on our own initiative, w/o being a part of the stupid Paris accord. And yet, the biggest carbon polluters, China gets a complete pass? No wonder Trump pulled us out.
 
Old 11-09-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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He never had an infrastructure plan and, of course, never had a plan for healthcare reform.
This is a fair point and the only part of your post I agree with.

However, no President in the last 30 years has had an infrastructure plan or a plan for healthcare reform that actually works. These seem to be rather tough issues for the federal government to deal with.
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