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Old 11-14-2021, 11:12 AM
 
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1) The state doesn't check our actual curriculum.

2) The state curriculum is poorly followed in most humanities classes and someone can hit curriculum in a different varieties including the woke way.

3) You choose to deny reality.
It's quite clear that poster has been watching too much Joy Reid.
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Old 11-14-2021, 11:13 AM
 
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And the solution to implicit evil is not to institutionalize it and continue it. Every act of so-called “affirmative” action cheated a better person out of their opportunity. The best people are not getting the job. And the public is robbed of the best service. In the case of firefighters and police, peoples lives are at stake because the objectively best and strongest candidate for the job was rejected in favor of irrelevant factors such as race, ethnicity, or sex.

We are not better off with so-called “affirmative” action, because we are not better off with institutionalized racism and sexism.
There's no way you can support that claim. Many instances of affirmative action were to require that non-whites and females be included in the interview pool. That's a good thing, since many qualified candidates were being ignored.
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Old 11-14-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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There's no way you can support that claim. Many instances of affirmative action were to require that non-whites and females be included in the interview pool. That's a good thing, since many qualified candidates were being ignored.
No. The candidates are the candidates. You post the job open format and anyone who applies are the candidates. Regardless of irrelevant characteristics. Then you objectively choose the best candidate based on qualifications. Not on race. Not on religion. Not on sex. Not on gender identity. Not on any of this irrelevant political inclusion bs. Best person based on merit and qualifications gets job. Colorblind society. Genderblind society.

For example, I want my firefighters to be physically very strong and robust. If you need to be able to lift and carry victims out of fires, then a test might be to carry a 175 pound sack down the stairs with equipment being worn. I don’t want to see a 100 pound sack for women. ALL FIREFIGHTERS would need to meet the exact same physical tests. Same with police officers. No affirmative action that waters down crap to make it easier for unqualified people. If testing results in 1% women firefighters? Too bad. Then that’s what it will be. Nobody is owed any job.

Racism and sexism are evil whether practiced privately or publicly. In fact, it’s WORSE when practiced publicly because it is backed by the police power of the state.

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Old 11-14-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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There's no way you can support that claim. Many instances of affirmative action were to require that non-whites and females be included in the interview pool. That's a good thing, since many qualified candidates were being ignored.
No. It's not. If there were no qualified women or non-whites among the candidates who applied, there should be no women or non-whites in the interview pool.
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Old 11-14-2021, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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CRT never left colleges. The idiots on the right seem to think that teaching about slavery, Jim Crow, etc is CRT. It's not, it's fact.
Do you honestly think the leftist in any level of schooling would tell their students who/which party was behind things like Jim Crow laws or even the KKK, or that a popular president locked up the majority of innocent people from the west coast during the Second World War. Or a southern democrat sympathizer shot Lincoln. Seems to me like those facts are mild inconveniences to the left and are being left out of their current history narrative.
And did you know it was blacks in Africa who enslaved their own people for profit and sold them to the slave runner. And the majority/if not all of slave ships were from Europe (Amsterdam) not the from the America's.
If teaching about history is your aim go for the real hard truth and dividing people by race is not the way forward. The left has always been about a color blind society but teaching CRT is the opposite views of the old democratic party.
Didn't the recent elections in Virginia and New Jersey teach you anything.
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Old 11-14-2021, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'm not sure why some people get so triggered by the term "critical race theory?" I'm pretty sure if I were to explain situations to you without using the term, you'd all hopefully agree in the idea behind it. Well unless you're a person full of hate & are an extreme racist.

For example, Milwaukee built an interstate through black neighborhoods & avoided white neighborhoods basically destroying the black community in Milwaukee & we still easily see the after effects even today in Milwaukee. Putting black folks here at a huge disadvantage. This has been well documented & researched.
https://shepherdexpress.com/culture/...-43-destroyed/

Or look at the history of the real estate industry in relationship to treatment of black folks. We still see the effects of that today. No wait, it's still in full effect.

Or look at black boys being suspended way more than other races.

Critical race theory is just a lens to look at that. That's it. There's multiple lenses a teacher will propose to look at when debating why black boys get suspended more.

They teach these concepts heavily in college. I honestly can't remember if they teach them in high school but wouldn't be surprised if they don't because it's not a simple concept to grasp. Understanding critical race theory takes deeper level thinking.
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Old 11-14-2021, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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So..."It's only taught in colleges," "It's only taught in law school."
Why is this crap taught anywhere?
What is the goal in poisoning people's minds with this toxic ideology?
Has MLK been canceled?
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Old 11-14-2021, 01:56 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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So..."It's only taught in colleges," "It's only taught in law school."
Why is this crap taught anywhere?
What is the goal in poisoning people's minds with this toxic ideology?
Has MLK been canceled?
I think MLK would be shocked at where we are at.
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Old 11-14-2021, 02:54 PM
 
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I think MLK would be shocked at where we are at.
Our public policy is now: Judge a man not by the content of his character, but by the color of his skin. We have LITERALLY reversed the ideal and made a mockery of it. Tribalism is now institutionalized and made into policy. It's an absolute decay of morality, reason, and virtue.
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Old 11-14-2021, 04:30 PM
 
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No. It's not. If there were no qualified women or non-whites among the candidates who applied, there should be no women or non-whites in the interview pool.
Prior to affirmative action, many jobs would flat out not look at women or minorities, regardless of qualifications.
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