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Old 11-09-2021, 08:24 PM
 
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It may be too late by then.
That is my fear, at the current rate Brandon is going, there will be no America by 2024
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:43 PM
 
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John Kerry says US 'won't have coal' by 2030. Climate czar John Kerry claims America 'will not have coal plants'

China on the other hand...
China will follow our lead. They always do. If we're able to make renewable energy affordable and easily available, China will take our technology and do the same.

That being said, we won't be coal free by 2030.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:12 PM
 
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How much are you ready to pay for electricity? Maybe you can afford this but this is going to be hell for the little guy. The Democrats are absolutely destroying the quality of life of the working poor and it’s going to get much worse.
Why do we need to be so reliant on coal instead of, say, hydroelectricity, which provides about 60% of Canada's electricity? There's working poor in Canada, and it gets damn cold there. Yet electricity in Canada is often less expensive than it is in the US.

Most countries reliant on coal (like the US) are developing countries.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:19 PM
 
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Why do we need to be so reliant on coal instead of, say, hydroelectricity, which provides about 60% of Canada's electricity? There's working poor in Canada, and it gets damn cold there. Yet electricity in Canada is often less expensive than it is in the US.

Most countries reliant on coal (like the US) are developing countries.
Yes except the climate change nazis aren't calling for Hydro or Nuclear or any other practicable source.

They want solar and wind, the most unreliable sources of power imaginable.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:40 PM
 
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Yes except the climate change nazis aren't calling for Hydro or Nuclear or any other practicable source.

They want solar and wind, the most unreliable sources of power imaginable.
By US standards, Canada's a "climate change nazi," or what I call an environmentally conscious country, and it's used hydroelectricity primarily for decades.

Meanwhile, we're still singing the praises of coal. Like, what year is this --1871, or 2021?
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:44 PM
 
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By US standards, Canada's a "climate change nazi," or what I call an environmentally conscious country, and it's used hydroelectricity primarily for decades.

Meanwhile, we're still singing the praises of coal. Like, what year is this --1871, or 2021?
Canada also has fewer people living in it than California. The amount of power that needs to be generated here is orders of magnitude more and there are only so many rivers that we can build dams on.

Besides that we can't just shut down coal because we don't like it. That capacity needs to be replaced first.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:50 PM
 
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Nuclear would be a great replacement of coal. But hat is too obvious.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:51 PM
 
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By US standards, Canada's a "climate change nazi," or what I call an environmentally conscious country
You mean the one that threw a fit when Keystone was cancelled because they couldn't ship an extra 830,000 barrels of oil a day?
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Old 11-09-2021, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why do we need to be so reliant on coal instead of, say, hydroelectricity, which provides about 60% of Canada's electricity? There's working poor in Canada, and it gets damn cold there. Yet electricity in Canada is often less expensive than it is in the US.

Most countries reliant on coal (like the US) are developing countries.
well first off the US is NOT reliant on coal ….. coal is only 17% of our energy production...in Canada its 9%


According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, most of the nation's electricity was generated by natural gas, coal, and nuclear energy in 2019. Electricity is also produced from renewable sources such as hydropower, biomass, wind, geothermal, and solar power




and while 59.5% of Canada's energy production is hydro... The remainder is produced from a variety of sources, including natural gas, nuclear, wind, coal, biomass, solar, and petroleum....and its VERY regional
B.C., Manitoba, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Yukon each generate over 80% of their electricity from hydroelectricity.
Alberta, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia, and Nunavut generate the majority of their electricity from fossil fuels such as coal, natural gas, or petroleum
Generation from wind farms and solar photovoltaic panels makes up ONLY 5%




and electricity is not less costly (to the end user) in Canada than the USA
The average residential cost of electricity in Canada is $0.179 per kWh.
The Average Electricity Rate in the U.S. is 10.42 cents per kilowatt-hour


math says that 10 cents per KWH is less than 17 cents per KWH
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Old 11-09-2021, 11:06 PM
 
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Me? Zero. I’ll be getting solar panels connected to a power wall and will be going off the grid. Anyone with half a brain should be doing this.
I have heard such mixed reviews about solar panels. One thing that I did not know was that when the electricity goes out, the solar panels stop working unless you have also installed some sort of expensive battery system to keep them going.

And the price! Good grief, they are expensive.

Does Kerry think about how people are supposed to afford this "green energy", of course not. He and Biden are about as far removed from normal people as you can get. Not that I'd want them any nearer, good heavens no!
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