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Old 11-17-2021, 01:15 PM
 
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"Whereas there is a wide range in antibody titers in response to infection with SARS-CoV-2, completion of a primary vaccine series, especially with mRNA vaccines, typically leads to a more consistent and higher-titer initial antibody response."
Your antibody response is to the S protein, that is so outdated, it's basically worthless at stopping infection. As we're seeing all over the place.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:16 PM
 
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"A more recent analysis of data from a network of 187 hospitals in the United States found that, among more than 7,000 COVID-19–like illness hospitalizations whose prior infection or vaccination occurred 90–179 days beforehand, there was a 5.5 times higher odds of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 among previously infected patients than among fully vaccinated patients "
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:18 PM
 
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If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
  • More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
  • Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
  • Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:20 PM
 
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https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/co...us-vaccination
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:21 PM
 
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If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
  • More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
  • Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
  • Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
The CDC's study is garbage and has been exposed. This is a better study:

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Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....24.21262415v1

Continue trying to spread misinformation. I will bury you in studies.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:21 PM
 
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https://www.city-data.com/forum/62300461-post53.html
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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The CDC's study is garbage and has been exposed. This is a better study:



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....24.21262415v1

Continue trying to spread misinformation. I will bury you in studies.

Who are you? A person on a massage board. They cited many studies and I posted other studies. It is "garbage" because it does not fit your view.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:24 PM
 
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https://www.city-data.com/forum/62300461-post53.html
Do you know what 13 fold means?

Put it in efficacy terms. 92%.

Meaning, a previously infected person has 92% protection from infection compared to someone vaccinated. That's how much your vaccines are worthless.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:24 PM
 
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The CDC's study is garbage and has been exposed. This is a better study:



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....24.21262415v1

Continue trying to spread misinformation. I will bury you in studies.

There are numerous studies which show vaccine immunity is better.



The biggest advantage is you don't risk getting severe COVID-19 from a vaccine.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:25 PM
 
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Who are you? A person on a massage board. They cited many studies and I posted other studies. It is "garbage" because it does not fit your view.
It's garbage because it's a observational study with deliberate cofounding bias. Something you'd understand if you knew how to read scientific studies. And the reason CDC never put it up for peer review.

Just garbage for idiots to justify their mandates.
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