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The 2nd Amendment preserves us, somewhat, from tyranny. The world could become a cess-pool unable to support life before I think humanity should wholly suffer tyranny. "Give me liberty or give me death" ring a bell? It's just a little American.
On the topic of gays, yes it's also a key issue. I don't care what homosexuals do in private and I could really care less if they have powers of attorney and whatever they're looking for. However, the tax advantage of marriage is to help produce what every nation needs: more people. Why homosexuals think they're entitled to that is beyond me.
Further, HIV/AIDS funding from the government. For better or worse, gays contract that stuff at a rate much faster than heteros. When public tax dollars are supposed to be ripped-off to pay to save some from their lifestyle choice is a slap in the face. Regrettably, that segment of the population is always teamed with people who think the government should be used to finance the lifestyles of others. For that reason alone, any effort to make homosexuality acceptable should be fought.
Every nation needs more people??? Do you honestly think this planet can accommodate trillions of humans?
By your reasoning, we need to revoke the marriage status of all hetero couples who cannot/will not have children. And as a father of two with my partner, why should I not get the tax advantages of marriage? We already get some advantages just by claiming them on our taxes. The other rights given by the status of marriage would simply make life more stable for us and our children.
Since I'm sure it'll be used again in this thread and others, would someone please explain to me what the "homosexual lifestyle" is, and how it differs from other lifestyles?
My "homosexual lifestyle" is like this: Live in a 3 bdr. house with my partner and 2 sons, drag my butt to work every day, clean house, mow the lawn, feed children, cook meals, take kids to doctor appointments, bathe children, change diapers, clean bottles... I dare you to find just one hetero living a lifestyle like mine!
Excuse me, but what am I missing out on?! Married couples do NOT get a tax break!!!!! My husband and I get less of a tax break now that we are married. I would like to know exactly what financial "perks" you are talking about!
MFJ gets a higher exemption than S or MFS. Two people as S get less of a tax break combined than MFJ, among other things. If you analyze the tax tables the incremental change is different...rather complex. Trust me, there are tax breaks...may not seem to you if affected by other stuff.
Excuse me, but what am I missing out on?! Married couples do NOT get a tax break!!!!! My husband and I get less of a tax break now that we are married. I would like to know exactly what financial "perks" you are talking about!
If your husband dies before you, you can get his social security, retirement, and inherit everything he owns tax free. If my partner dies, even with our wills, I get taxed to death on every penny and risk losing our house.
if that is the only reason... why is that bad? the government isn't supposed to discriminate anyway...
also, i recall reading that married couples actually pay more in taxes...
i think it varies by income levels though.
Its bad because tax breaks are given to certain individuals based on reality.
You get deductions based on REAL expenditures. You get taxed based on REAL income & the Marriage bennies are based on REAL increases in the cost of living experienced by married couples that have kids. Since penalizing married hetero couples that cant have kids would be wrong, like throwing salt on a wound, its stupid & defeatist to treat same sex marriages like anything more than what they are.
My "homosexual lifestyle" is like this: Live in a 3 bdr. house with my partner and 2 sons, drag my butt to work every day, clean house, mow the lawn, feed children, cook meals, take kids to doctor appointments, bathe children, change diapers, clean bottles... I dare you to find just one hetero living a lifestyle like mine!
How absurd that you think hetero couples dont live hard lifestyles because of family commitments. How do you think you got here?
One clue I have to offer is it wasnt as a result of a same sex marriage.
Wether or not a hetero couple HAS kids the only reason for the perks is because THEY CAN. Adoption is irrelevant. If you cant afford to raise kids without the perks you shouldn't be permitted to adopt.
Its bad because tax breaks are given to certain individuals based on reality.
You get deductions based on REAL expenditures. You get taxed based on REAL income & the Marriage bennies are based on REAL increases in the cost of living experienced by married couples that have kids. Since penalizing married hetero couples that cant have kids would be wrong, like throwing salt on a wound, its stupid & defeatist to treat same sex marriages like anything more than what they are.
So if a gay couple adopts kids, they shouldn't get child credits?
I'm not straw manning here, this is just an additional question
Its bad because tax breaks are given to certain individuals based on reality.
You get deductions based on REAL expenditures. You get taxed based on REAL income & the Marriage bennies are based on REAL increases in the cost of living experienced by married couples that have kids. Since penalizing married hetero couples that cant have kids would be wrong, like throwing salt on a wound, its stupid & defeatist to treat same sex marriages like anything more than what they are.
LOL two income gay married couples with kids current pay lower taxes because the feds won't recognize the marriage.
How absurd that you think hetero couples dont live hard lifestyles because of family commitments. How do you think you got here?
One clue I have to offer is it wasnt as a result of a same sex marriage.
Wether or not a hetero couple HAS kids the only reason for the perks is because THEY CAN. Adoption is irrelevant. If you cant afford to raise kids without the perks you shouldn't be permitted to adopt.
Then let's level the playing field. If heteros can't afford kids without doing it on the taxpayers' back, they they shouldn't have kids either. If gay couples can't get the perks, then neither should heteros.
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