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Old 11-16-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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You asked how the poor are exploited and I gave you a solid answer. Obviously they do not want to be homeless and that is why they are allowing themselves to be exploited.
False. Exploited? The tenants are getting a service at its fair market value. That's a straight free market exchange.

Exploitation is the government forcibly taking my money, pissing it away, and giving me back nothing of value in return.
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Old 11-16-2021, 08:58 AM
 
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Exploited? The tenants are getting a service at its fair market value.
But it is not fair market value because there is no real competition and it isn’t based at all on cost.

If you are thirsty and water costs $1000 and there is no other water in your neighborhood then the person who is selling you the water is exploiting you, no matter that that is the fair market value. It’s exploitation by definition.
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Old 11-16-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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But it is not fair market value because there is no real competition and it isn’t based at all on cost.

If you are thirsty and water costs $1000 and there is no other water in your neighborhood then the person who is selling you the water is exploiting you, no matter that that is the fair market value. It’s exploitation by definition.
Fair market value is NEVER based on cost. That's why it's called fair market value, not fair cost-plus value.

If you get paid far in excess of what you need to live on, are you exploiting your employer? No, it means the fair market value of your skills is far greater than what you need to live on.
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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Fair market value is NEVER based on cost. That's why it's called fair market value, not fair cost-plus value.
So In your world there is no such thing as exploitation? Everything is fair market value. Ok
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Boston
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They are not hung up. Who is posting here?
In my decades of experience working in impoverished neighborhoods, thousands and thousands of families, poor are just thinking about getting by and keeping safe. They want to figure out how to get out of poverty. How to access benefits that will help their families.
How have you reached your conclusion exactly?
I've watched the poor for more than 30 years. The poor are their own worst enemy. They want to figure out how to get out of poverty? lol develop a skill that's marketable and go to work, they've been told that for 50 years, it ain't rocket science...quit making excuses for generational poverty. You sound like a kid.
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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So In your world there is no such thing as exploitation? Everything is fair market value. Ok
I told you. Taxes are exploitation.
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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I've watched the poor for more than 30 years. The poor are their own worst enemy. They want to figure out how to get out of poverty? lol develop a skill that's marketable and go to work, they've been told that for 50 years, it ain't rocket science...quit making excuses for generational poverty. You sound like a kid.
My experience is different. Especially with immigrant communities.
Thanks for the compliment about being a kid. I’ll take that one. I strive to stay young in my thinking.
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Sammamish, WA
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I know a kid from Nigeria who's making $30,000 a month via SEO marketing and E-advertising. He's self-taught, came from a poor family, but once he got his first computer he spent as much time as possible learning various ways to make money.

If the poor wish to increase their income, they can simply use the internet to do so. It's there for anyone to use, if they so wish. The internet has created tens of thousands of new millionaires. It's the best wealth making opportunity in human history. You don't need a college degree or a diploma, you don't need to be a genius.
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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I know a kid from Nigeria who's making $30,000 a month via SEO marketing and E-advertising. He's self-taught, came from a poor family, but once he got his first computer he spent as much time as possible learning various ways to make money.

If the poor wish to increase their income, they can simply use the internet to do so. It's there for anyone to use, if they so wish. The internet has created tens of thousands of new millionaires. It's the best wealth making opportunity in human history. You don't need a college degree or a diploma, you don't need to be a genius.
FYI. The internet costs money to bring it in to your home.
Yes you can use the library.
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:25 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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But it is not fair market value because there is no real competition and it isn’t based at all on cost.

If you are thirsty and water costs $1000 and there is no other water in your neighborhood then the person who is selling you the water is exploiting you, no matter that that is the fair market value. It’s exploitation by definition.
You go ahead and stay and pay $1K. Me...I'm moving.

See..CHOICE.
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