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Old 11-17-2021, 12:04 PM
 
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Well, if Rice Krispies had a track record of being a cause of death, then they could be a possible cause after someone does eat them.

Similar to an extremely healthy man dying of unknown causes in his sleep after getting a third dose of a vaccine, which is known to kill healthy men.

Obviously.
Are vaccine boosters known to kill people? If so, please give evidence.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:09 PM
 
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are vaccine boosters known to kill people? If so, please give evidence.
vaers
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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vaers
Anyone can report to VAERS, including you and me.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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According to CDC data, 751k Americans died of COVID, and 385k of those were from pneumonia. -> https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ia-and-flu-us/

A lot of heart attacks, strokes, etc getting counted as COVID deaths.
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If the truth of deaths after vaccinations were being monitored and investigated immediately by legitimate health safety boards, the jabs would have been halted long ago for safety concerns.
Please show the evidence for these claims.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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Anyone can report to VAERS, including you and me.
Yeah, the signal is important. Anyone can, put any reason, at any time. But when you have a spike in death following mass vaccinations, you can extract good data from the noise.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:21 PM
 
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Yeah, the signal is important. Anyone can, put any reason, at any time. But when you have a spike in death following mass vaccinations, you can extract good data from the noise.
Sure, with all the scaremongering, people will now blame every symptom on vaccines. It’s mass paranoia.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:22 PM
 
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Sure, with all the scaremongering, people will now blame everything on vaccines. It’s mass paranoia.
Like what happened with COVID?
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:25 PM
 
Location: NC
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Oh yeah yeah, did you use those arguments for COVID? You're aware that more than 50% of all COVID deaths are in people above their median life expectancy from birth. And 98% have at least one comorbidity.

This doc was 52, no comorbidities, and for you guys, it's just a coincidence.
What percentage of ALL people who die do you think are above their median life expectancy?


Assuming your 50% stat mentioned above isn't something you just made up, or copied from some fake-news source, I would be willing to bet LARGE amounts that the percentage is higher for the general population, than it is for the COVID Deaths. If I'm right, it only gives more evidence that the vaccine saves lives, and that COVID kills people.

Even if your 50% stat is true (big "if"), you seem to be stating it like it means something. It means nothing until you compare it to the control group. The control group would be ALL deaths who die above their median life expectancy.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:30 PM
 
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What percentage of ALL people who die do you think are above their median life expectancy?
Quite a bit, somewhere around 50%, if we're talking about life expectancy at birth.

But since you guys like to walk down the rope that everyone who dies after the vaccine is a coincidence, look at COVID deaths.

>50% dead after their life expetency at birth. 98% with comorbidities. Only 50% died of pneumonia. The rest died from god knows what, probably a lionshare of heart attacks, strokes, and who knows.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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From the CDC website:

“If a health problem is reported to VAERS, that doesn’t mean that the vaccine caused the problem. It warns vaccine safety experts of potential problems that they may need to assess, and it alerts them to take further action, as needed.”

In other words, one should never *ignore* anecdotes, because they *could* indicate a problem. But never jump to conclusions based on anecdotes.

It’s likely that actual scientists are pouring through the reports and trying to determine if the adverse events are higher among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. If so, that *could* indicate a problem with the vaccines. Even in that case, there are lurking variables to consider like age and existing health conditions. Older and sicker people might be more likely to get the vaccine, and older and sicker people are more likely to have adverse health events regardless.

So far I have not heard that these vaccines are likely to cause serious problems. The risk is not absolute zero, but it’s much lower than the risks from COVID-19. Would you rather swim in a lake with 1 alligator or the same lake with 100 alligators?
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