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GDP and average income by themselves prove nothing. More important is "How many people are unable to meet their own needs without direct government assistance to pay for food, clothing, shelter, and even basic checkups and medicine?". Europe clearly wins over the US here.
GDP and average income by themselves prove nothing. More important is "How many people are unable to meet their own needs without direct government assistance to pay for food, clothing, shelter, and even basic checkups and medicine?". Europe clearly wins over the US here.
Do you have statistics proving that Europeans need less government assistance? That doesn't sound right.
If we look at the chart the GDP per capita of Sweden is lower than some of the poorest US states.
Conservatives probably celebrate this as the triumph of American capitalism and free market innovation. And of course they think it is 100% accurate.
There are two problems: first, GDP is measured based on the US dollar so if the Euro falls in comparison it would look like these economies are in decline. Second GDP does not calculate societal well being or the distribution of the wealth.
The USA is 21.1 per 100,000 people while the highest European country (Norway) is 5 per 100,000 people.
What conservatives want is a country were multinational corporations drown in excess dollars from manufacturing abroad while the people die of drug overdoses and kill themselves.
That is the American way to these people. That is what makes us Richer.
It's ironic what a high percentage of these drug overdoses are happening in liberal cities, even when these places spend tons of money on social problems.
San Francisco spends $1Billion a year on homelessness, but it's the worst ever. Much of it is attributable to drug addiction. Even liberal San Franciscans are starting to see it's a polcy problem, not a money problem (and actually said as much at the end of the video).
Compound that with the fact that San Francisco, like many liberal areas, refuses to build anywhere near enough housing, which makes life hostile for even the upper middle class, let alone the poor. It also makesEven left leaning media outlets admit this:
Blue America has a problem: Even after adjusting for income, left-leaning metros tend to have worse income inequality and less affordable housing.
Europe (most of it), the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, and even Taiwan all constitute the West. All have multiparty democratic governments, free markets, enshrined rights, and yes, social-welfare states.
All differ a bit with regards to the aforementioned systems due to historical and cultural differences. Obviously this is lost on the OP, but that is hardly new.
Arguing about which system in the West is better or richer is an exercise for the feeble minded.
I would certainly take the West over Russia, China, and any country in the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America. Maybe Winterfall should explore some of those areas and see who is richer.
But I guess yet another tired old Beatles vs Stones debate is so much more enlightening.
If we look at the chart the GDP per capita of Sweden is lower than some of the poorest US states.
Conservatives probably celebrate this as the triumph of American capitalism and free market innovation. And of course they think it is 100% accurate.
There are two problems: first, GDP is measured based on the US dollar so if the Euro falls in comparison it would look like these economies are in decline. Second GDP does not calculate societal well being or the distribution of the wealth.
The USA is 21.1 per 100,000 people while the highest European country (Norway) is 5 per 100,000 people.
What conservatives want is a country were multinational corporations drown in excess dollars from manufacturing abroad while the people die of drug overdoses and kill themselves.
That is the American way to these people. That is what makes us Richer.
There are 2 problems which is the only thing you are correct about.
1. Your post displays a lack of knowledge on economics
2. Your post makes things up about conservatives
It's ironic what a high percentage of these drug overdoses are happening in liberal cities, even when these places spend tons of money on social problems.
San Francisco spends $1Billion a year on homelessness, but it's the worst ever. Much of it is attributable to drug addiction. Even liberal San Franciscans are starting to see it's a polcy problem, not a money problem (and actually said as much at the end of the video).
Compound that with the fact that San Francisco, like many liberal areas, refuses to build anywhere near enough housing, which makes life hostile for even the upper middle class, let alone the poor. It also makesEven left leaning media outlets admit this:
Blue America has a problem: Even after adjusting for income, left-leaning metros tend to have worse income inequality and less affordable housing.
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