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Old 11-17-2021, 12:22 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Europeans live in smaller houses, drive smaller cars and buy less consumer items than Americans.

So, they try to figure out "other" ways they are richer than us.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You seem to be saying American liberals are not in favor of capitalism.

For a long time I disagreed with conservatives labeling all liberals as communists. I thought they were just exaggerating and hurling insults. But your post seems to suggest those characterizations are accurate.

I am a full on capitalist. Most Americans live and work as capitalists. How can you not? Look at all the rich people donating to the Democratic party. Are they not capitalists?
Europe is capitalist.

The question is do we want a country run by hedge fund managers and an immigration system design to circumvent trained labor in the United States?

That is what conservatives want.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Europeans live in smaller houses, drive smaller cars and buy less consumer items than Americans.

So, they try to figure out "other" ways they are richer than us.
Such as happiness?

I agree. They have smaller homes, smaller cars, buy less tat and somehow they're happier and less overworked. Terrible for them. Obviously.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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Such as happiness?

I agree. They have smaller homes, smaller cars, buy less tat and somehow they're happier and less overworked. Terrible for them. Obviously.
None of that is relevant to the question. "Rich" is a function of material wealth.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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None of that is relevant to the question. "Rich" is a function of material wealth.
True.

And in that case USA has been richer than Europe for many years.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If a country is "richer" than another is a meaningless metric. The more important metric is happiness and freedom. Using happiness as a metric, the US has a LONG way to go to catch up with Europe. Similarly, using freedom as a metric, the US has a long way to go to catch up with Europe as well.
happiness is also a meaningless metric


yep so much healthier and happy...that they commit suicide more than the usa in EVERY AGE bracket






denmark age above 75.....46.3 per 100,000 people Ranked 4th. 2 times more than United States at 22 per 100,000 people

denmark age 75-64...........43.9 per 100,000 people Ranked 1st. 3 times more than United States at 15.3 per 100,000 people

denmark age 55-64............32.1 per 100,000 people Ranked 3rd. 2 times more than United States at 13.3 per 100,000 people

denmark age 45-54..............35.9 per 100,000 people Ranked 2nd. 3 times more than United States at 14.3 per 100,000 people

denmark age 35-44............23.9 per 100,000 people, Ranked 4th. 56% more than United States at 15.3 per 100,000 people

denmark age 25-34............16.9 per 100,000 people, Ranked 9th. 10% more than United States at 15.3 per 100,000 people

denmark age
18-24............13.9 per 100,000 people, Ranked11th. 2/10ths more than United States at 13.7 per 100,000 people

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-...ofiles/Denmark

yep so Happy and healthy they are killing themselves
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Ben Shapiro and other conservatives are pushing this chart that possets even the richest European states are poorer than Mississippi.

https://twitter.com/DouglasCarswell/...76707196833793

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEZwcyGW...ng&name=medium

If we look at the chart the GDP per capita of Sweden is lower than some of the poorest US states.

Conservatives probably celebrate this as the triumph of American capitalism and free market innovation. And of course they think it is 100% accurate.

There are two problems: first, GDP is measured based on the US dollar so if the Euro falls in comparison it would look like these economies are in decline. Second GDP does not calculate societal well being or the distribution of the wealth.

If look at drug overdoses per capita: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...source=twitter

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/stat...11012539322368

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEaNo8ZX...g&name=900x900

The USA is 21.1 per 100,000 people while the highest European country (Norway) is 5 per 100,000 people.

What conservatives want is a country were multinational corporations drown in excess dollars from manufacturing abroad while the people die of drug overdoses and kill themselves.

That is the American way to these people. That is what makes us Richer.
Think China just beat us - so we are numero 2 now. So yes.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Sammamish, WA
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Europeans live in smaller houses, drive smaller cars and buy less consumer items than Americans.

They usually pay more in taxes as well.
But in return they have universal health coverage, better public transportation, better public schools, and possibly better infrastructure depending on the country.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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They usually pay more in taxes as well.
But in return they have universal health coverage, better public transportation, better public schools, and possibly better infrastructure depending on the country.
uhm


the USA ranks number 1 in public education
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ngs-by-country


and as to infrastructure


USA ranks 13....Singapore is number 1
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nfrastructure/
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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I love how the leftists always drag out a Scandinavian country as their example of what is better than the lousy ol USA.


This time...it is Sweden.


There are poor and miserable people in Sweden. Probably many in debt and at one time, another Scandinavian country (Finland) was at the top of the suicide list as far as countries with the highest suicide rates.


Most American's view of Sweden and most Scandinavian countries is probably circa 1985. These countries have changed quite a bit in the recent decades.
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