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Old 11-17-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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Obama is just as poisonous to a campaign as Trump. For the same reason.

Nobody motivates Republicans to vote against them more than Obama, and nobody motivates Democrats to vote against them more than Trump.

Members of either party beware...don't let either of those goofs attach their name to your quest to seize power. It will backfire, almost guaranteed.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:32 PM
 
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Obama is just as poisonous to a campaign as Trump. For the same reason.

Nobody motivates Republicans to vote against them more than Obama, and nobody motivates Democrats to vote against them more than Trump.

Members of either party beware...don't let either of those goofs attach their name to your quest to seize power. It will backfire, almost guaranteed.

Nope.


It's not that Obama is poisonous, it's just that nothing can save the Dems now. They've played their hand too aggressively and shown their true colors - scaring off minority and moderate voters.


And since Trump actually won the 2020 election, and the polling stations in blue/purple states had to shut down in the middle of the night to activate the spigot of fake ballots - I don't buy that argument either.



Trump consistently has massive enthusiasm.


The Dems now have nothing but rejection and scorn because of their thoroughly Un-American ideas.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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Nope.

It's not that Obama is poisonous, it's just that nothing can save the Dems now. They've played their hand too aggressively and shown their true colors - scaring off minority and moderate voters.

And since Trump actually won the 2020 election, and the polling stations in blue/purple states had to shut down in the middle of the night to activate the spigot of fake ballots - I don't buy that argument either.

Trump consistently has massive enthusiasm.

The Dems now have nothing but rejection and scorn because of their thoroughly Un-American ideas.
...says the Trump voter.

Bottom line, Republicans who could not defeat Obama at the ballot box take every opportunity he hands them to vote against him. Wherever he shows up, no matter who he supports, Republican voter participation spikes upward simply out of spite. I do not disagree that the Dems have overplayed their tyranny hand, but Obama is a poison pill to any campaign other than his own.

And Trump is the exact same way with Republican campaigns. The Democrats couldn't fairly keep him out office, they couldn't throw him out of office, so now anytime he shows up anywhere and attaches his name to something, Democrats get motivated to vote against him. Ever wonder why Youngkin didn't want Trump in VA in Oct/Nov? Smart politician who can see a trend, that's why.

Democrats/liberals have the same visceral hate for Trump that Republicans/conservatives have for Obama. They are arch-nemesis super villains to their respective opposition parties.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:01 PM
 
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And Trump is the exact same way with Republican campaigns. The Democrats couldn't fairly keep him out office, they couldn't throw him out of office, so now anytime he shows up anywhere and attaches his name to something, Democrats get motivated to vote against him. Ever wonder why Youngkin didn't want Trump in VA in Oct/Nov?

OK, first of all, it's not as if you're spouting some esoteric complex nuanced theory. What you're saying is like basic Politics 101. Nothing obscure about it. And in the new World of 2021, it's also completely wrong.


See, Youngkin didn't disavow Trump. He just ran his own campaign.



But much more importantly, the Dems made it all about Trump. The McAwful campaign (Credit to Uggabugga ) even sent mailers out claiming that Youngkin was a Trump Republican. They flooded the zone with with this false information. They couldn't shut up about him every chance they got. They even pointed out that Trump endorsed Youngkin, and the latter gentleman didn't run away from it one iota. They even ran a false flag with Tiki Torch bozos that were supposed to remind voters of Trump equivocating white supremacists with Left wing protesters. (Of course it's been irrefutably proven he did no such thing.)


No, what we are now seeing is that the Left has gone so far into the weeds on the issues - that it's not just that their folks are staying home; they're bolting to the GOP. Blacks, and especially hispanics are abandoning the Dems, and no amount of "Trump!" panic is going to change that. Even when he's front and center again. And he will be.


The issues now rule the day, and the Democrats are staggeringly on the wrong side of every single one of them that matters right now - when they even choose to address them. Telling parents' children that they're racist is not going to be reversed with a Trump boogeyman tactic.


Cling to your conventional wisdom as much as you like, but it is already being proven wrong.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I applaud the moderate Democrats & Independents in Columbia SC & Virginia for joining the more moderate Republican voters. The Pubs couldn't have won these 2 elections w/o them. Even if indy's and moderate Dems just sat this election out, and stayed home....thank-you.

To all who might see this post...please make it as easy as possible for the indy's and moderate Dems to vote for Republican candidates moving forward.

The chest pounding & Trump talk is not helping your cause. Enjoy this win, but remember w/o out them, it wouldn't have happened.

The Republicans will need them in every election from now until 2024...and beyond.

There are not enough registered Republicans to win most statewide, and nationwide, elections anymore.

Attack the Socialists leaning Libs with all you've got, but the indy's and moderate Dems need to be respected, as fellow Americans whose party has been taken away from them. I know how they feel, the Republican party was taken from me 20 years ago.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:04 PM
 
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Well that's the cycle of virtuosity. The more the Dems double down on "Progressivism", the more they lose in monumental fashion!


So in a perverse way, we should kind of want them to keep doing it. And, fortunately, they look more than eager to oblige.
Well the problem with that is maybe they DO realize they are facing an electoral bloodbath and figure they might as well do as much as they can WHILE they can, since the Conservatives are all but powerless and castrated at the moment.

It will already take at least a decade to undo the damage from the last twenty or so months. Imagine what they can still in the next twelve.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:07 PM
 
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Conservatives are all but powerless and castrated at the moment.

We have a little something called the Court system. Look what is happening with Brandon's vaccine mandate.


Thanks President Trump
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:17 PM
 
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Conservatives are all but powerless and castrated at the moment.
Even when they assume power, they are feckless cowards on their bravest day. When Trump took power, recall, the House and Senate were both GOP. Did they fund the wall? Did they back Trump's populism across the board? Or did they sidestep, shuffle and tap dance because they were afraid of being called mean by the NY Times and WaPo?

Dubyah had almost as solid a lock on power in 2005 as Obama enjoyed in 2009...and did he get any of the reforms he campaigned on? Nope, and guess who stopped him, particularly on Social Security? In 2005, when Sen. Coburn wanted to pull money out of the pork laden Highway Transportation Bill to offset cost of Katrina relief, it wasn't Democrats throwing hissy fits in the Senate and House, it was Republicans, primarily Sen. Stevens (R-AK) and Rep Young (R-AK).

And oh by the by, Trump signed the bump stock ban, showing himself no particular friend of the 2A.

Republicans are worse than Democrats, because at least the Democrats come out and tell you they are big government, socialist tyrants. The GOP are exactly the same but lie about it. Tyrants, the lot of them, and only Team Blue tells the truth about it.

Nothing will change if they take back the House and Senate. Just 99% of the same big government nonsense you have now instead of 100%, just with more media hatred. In fact, that may be the only good thing you get with Republicans in charge - a media that remembers the whole purpose of a free press, rather than being the Ministry of Truth like they are for Democrats.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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The train is leaving the station, and the Dems are on a one way trip to crazy town.
And nothing could be better for the health and viability of the United States of America.

QFT.
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Old 11-17-2021, 06:41 PM
 
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Just counting the days til November '22! It is going to be a Republican blow out baby!





https://freebeacon.com/elections/oba...-mayoral-race/



If I were a dedicated Democrat I would be asking what we should/should not be doing at this moment?


Well, it looks like the Dem Establishment class has decided to double down on garbage like Critical Race Theory.


Democrats plan to swing back aggressively at Republicans on critical race theory claims




https://www.businessinsider.com/demo...icans-2021-11#


Any rational political entity would bail at this point. I mean, the mid-terms are still a year away, so if there was any realistic hope of a course correction, you'd think they'd just right the ship and change course - change strategy.


But, as we know, the Democrats are no longer a sane political party - but an elite class totally captured by its frothing radical (and shrinking) base's unhinged demands.


I mean, Youngkin won a majority of Hispanics. This isn't hyperbole, the Dems are truly heading into a Category 5 Hurricane.



If you're a Republican you're licking your chops. The Dems are showing they are incapable of turning things around before next year.


The train is leaving the station, and the Dems are on a one way trip to crazy town.


And nothing could be better for the health and viability of the United States of America.

Obviously, this IS OBAMA'S THIRD TERM. Obama is the guy calling the shots and the balance of America HATES his idiotic policies and smug arrogance.

Like his first two terms, everything Obama touches turns into a disaster. Dems are very good at campaigning, but awful, chaotic, and disorganized in governing. It is the irrational emotions, poor organization, and poorly conceived plans that makes them democrats in the first place.
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