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That's why not every participant is charged in these events. Intent is important. If you bring a battering ram, pipe bomb, weapons, gallows, gasoline containers, body armor, or attack the police it's a good bet that you are not there just for chanting slogans.
In Kenosha, Kyle took a weapon to a demonstration but claims self defense in shooting and killing people. He didn't belong there (and neither did the rioters) and should not have possessed a weapon. That shows intent.
So Kyle, brandishing a lethal weapon, claims self defense as his motivation even though, by his presence, he incited the confrontation. If he was shot by a rioter they also could claim self defense as well. He certainly represents an armed threat.
If a peaceful protestor is attacked (unwarranted) by the police with a lethal club or rubber bullets or some weapon (maybe a knee on the neck) and the protestor fights back, would that also be self defense? Do the police represent a threat? The BLM protests often start from a perceived unwarranted police use of lethal force, usually against an unarmed suspect. The question of intent applies to both the police and protesters. In Kenosha, an uncharged person was shot four times in the back and paralyzed. Now, if there are "bad apples" among the police, as we hear there are, there are also the same among the protesters. These confrontational situations spiral out of control very easily. The presence of armed unauthorized militia, self-appointed vigilanties, is a provocation and should be dealt with by the police the same as they would the protesters, not cozied up to with bottled water and encouragement.
Something like that.
My right wing friends would be best not to ask my opinion for they would not like what they hear. As civilians who can carry a gun (leaving out his legality in that matter), there is a saying, "Now that you can carry a gun, don't go anyplace where you couldn't carry a gun.". As civilians, we are expected not to go to a place where we expect we will need a gun, we are expected to avoid those places........
..........and he was in direct counter to that philosophy.
My right wing friends would be best not to ask my opinion for they would not like what they hear. As civilians who can carry a gun (leaving out his legality in that matter), there is a saying, "Now that you can carry a gun, don't go anyplace where you couldn't carry a gun.". As civilians, we are expected not to go to a placewhere we expect we will need a gun, we are expected to avoid those places........
..........and he was in direct counter to that philosophy.
This is true. Carrying a gun into a riot because you think you might need it is irresponsible and idiotic.
That's why not every participant is charged in these events. Intent is important. If you bring a battering ram, pipe bomb, weapons, gallows, gasoline containers, body armor, or attack the police it's a good bet that you are not there just for chanting slogans.
In Kenosha, Kyle took a weapon to a demonstration but claims self defense in shooting and killing people. He didn't belong there (and neither did the rioters) and should not have possessed a weapon. That shows intent.
So Kyle, brandishing a lethal weapon, claims self defense as his motivation even though, by his presence, he incited the confrontation. If he was shot by a rioter they also could claim self defense as well. He certainly represents an armed threat.
If a peaceful protestor is attacked (unwarranted) by the police with a lethal club or rubber bullets or some weapon (maybe a knee on the neck) and the protestor fights back, would that also be self defense? Do the police represent a threat? The BLM protests often start from a perceived unwarranted police use of lethal force, usually against an unarmed suspect. The question of intent applies to both the police and protesters. In Kenosha, an uncharged person was shot four times in the back and paralyzed. Now, if there are "bad apples" among the police, as we hear there are, there are also the same among the protesters. These confrontational situations spiral out of control very easily. The presence of armed unauthorized militia, self-appointed vigilanties, is a provocation and should be dealt with by the police the same as they would the protesters, not cozied up to with bottled water and encouragement.
It's a great opinion. Well stated and thorough.
Problem is, you didn't incorporate judicial standards. This is a trial based on judicial standards, not public opinion.
These gutless terrorists/thugs (BLM, Antifa et al) are too cowardly to do anything. You know why? It's 15* outside right now here in the Upper Midwest. These pathetic terrorists are too weak to go out in the cold.
What do they need bricks for? A person can now walk around with an AR15 to protests and shoot anybody who they believe is challenging them, claiming self defense. This includes those the above poster mentioned, Antifa, BLM, or whomever.
What do they need bricks for? A person can now walk around with an AR15 to protests and shoot anybody who they believe is challenging them, claiming self defense. This includes those the above poster mentioned, Antifa, BLM, or whomever.
Well, are bricks in more plentiful supply, cheaper, that .223?
Now, I have seen the price come down on some of it but got to remember that during the pandemic, available supply was priced out of sight! What was the availability of bricks?
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Are they confiscating the bricks? During all the BLM protests and riots they found a pile of bricks during a protest and the city just piled it in their trucks and took it away.
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