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Old 11-21-2021, 01:46 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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When they say "It won't cost US a penny", they are right. It won't. To quote Jen Psaki "It just won't".

It will cost YOU! Or your kids and their kids.

Unless what they mean is that they will be taking your money anyway, so in that respect it won't cost any more than you'll are going to be paying anyway.
Well there aren't new "taxes" but there are "fees".

Example..the per mileage "fee" pilot program. If that works to their liking it will probably be enacted in 2023.
It's a "fee" though, not a tax.
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Old 11-21-2021, 01:48 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I’m sure Big Ag is happy. They have a new source of cheap labor, with the poverty costs offloaded onto the middle class.
Nah...construction, landscaping, other manual labor service jobs.
That is where they go.

Foreman/Crew chief is a citizen and employee. They get a lump of cash and hire day workers and pay them cash. This way no one can get in trouble for "hiring an illegal".

I lived in Texas for over 20 years and that is how work gets done.
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Old 11-21-2021, 01:54 PM
 
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Here's what I don't get either. Why is it being called reform unless from here on out we are going to allow any future illegal aliens to gain work permits, etc.? Why don't they call it what it is....amnesty? There is no reform as it means reforming our immigration laws and that isn't what this is about. Reform means changing! There is no change to our immigration laws it's simply rewarding those who have violated them.
"Reform" is just used for propaganda purposes.

Remember "Affordable Health Care"?
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Old 11-21-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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Nah...construction, landscaping, other manual labor service jobs.
That is where they go.

Foreman/Crew chief is a citizen and employee. They get a lump of cash and hire day workers and pay them cash. This way no one can get in trouble for "hiring an illegal".

I lived in Texas for over 20 years and that is how work gets done.
Good for them. They profit from the cheap labor, you pick up the tab for their welfare, schooling, etc. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
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Old 11-21-2021, 03:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The term isn't "illegals"-it's offensive. The accurate term is foreign criminals.
Foreign criminals are the business of the foreign nation the criminals are in.

But the ones that have crossed into the United State, are our business. They are no longer merely "foreign criminals". They are, among other things, people from foreign countries who have illegally entered outs.

The are, exactly, illegal aliens. The term is both accurate and appropriate.

If it's offensive to them, too bad. They can leave any time, and get happy... somewhere else.
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Old 11-21-2021, 03:19 PM
 
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So work authorization for up to 10 years but no pathway to citizenship. Neither side is getting what they want.
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Old 11-21-2021, 03:25 PM
 
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The term isn't "illegals"-it's offensive. The accurate term is foreign criminals.
Foreign Criminals is OK, but they are actually Foreign Invaders.
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Old 11-21-2021, 03:26 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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Well before that they complained about those same cages only they were "Trump cages".

And little do people know that it was Obama that had those "cages" constructed.
Only that got little to no MSM time.
Obama locked up the parents if they were known to be criminal, separating child from parent. Administrations since then have locked up everyone, regardless, separating child from parent. Obama was also labeled a Fuhrer, which makes me wonder, what does that make everyone else that has followed his lead.
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Old 11-21-2021, 03:34 PM
 
Location: The Sunshine State of Mind
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And all they keep telling us is "it won't cost us a penny".
But it will. We have been assured this by the guy who keeps asking "Where am I"?. Just like obamacare will save you $2,500.00. Just like that nice man that told us he didn't have sexual relations with that young lady.
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Old 11-21-2021, 03:36 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 28 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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Foreign Criminals is OK, but they are actually Foreign Invaders.
And I guess the same that could be said for the estimated 8.7 million Americans that have left the u.s. for other countries around the world. It isn't enough that the u.s. has 800 military bases in 70 countries (talk about invasion) but American citizens are also there, I wonder if they see Americans as invaders too; seeking opportunities when they should have just stayed home.
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