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Old 12-03-2021, 06:25 AM
 
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I never thought a vaccine could be so worthless as to require a booster shot within the very same year.
First off, some vaccines require multiple shots/boosters. Hepatitis is 3. HPV 2 or 3. Shingles 2. And even then some vaccines are not absolute in coverage. They all tend to help, but the Shingles isn't 100%, nor the Influenza vaccine for examples. My immune-compromised wife is battling off Shingles despite having had the 2 doses of the Shingrix vaccine. Many vaccines don't take on the first pass, and that fact is exacerbated by age, immune-compromised states and/or other high medical risks. 1/3 of our people are high risk.

And very importantly, few vaccines have to try and tolerate and try and fight off significant mutations. This past summer the Delta changed the game.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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A South African study out yesterday found omicron variant is three times as likely to cause re-infection in people who have already had covid as is the delta variant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a-reinfection/
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:28 AM
 
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I never thought a vaccine could be so worthless as to require a booster shot within the very same year.

And perhaps a new one for Omicron.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:33 AM
 
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A South African study out yesterday found omicron variant is three times as likely to cause re-infection in people who have already had covid as is the delta variant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a-reinfection/
I can’t read the article as it’s behind a paywall but I’m curious how they already know this when the variant was just discovered and everyone who we have heard about having had it was fully vaccinated.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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First off, some vaccines require multiple shots/boosters. Hepatitis is 3. HPV 2 or 3. Shingles 2. And even then some vaccines are not absolute in coverage. They all tend to help, but the Shingles isn't 100%, nor the Influenza vaccine for examples. My immune-compromised wife is battling off Shingles despite having had the 2 doses of the Shingrix vaccine. Many vaccines don't take on the first pass, and that fact is exacerbated by age, immune-compromised states and/or other high medical risks. 1/3 of our people are high risk.

And very importantly, few vaccines have to try and tolerate and try and fight off significant mutations. This past summer the Delta changed the game.
Those, we already know are given in a series and what the series is AND when it's done.
Not the case with the Covid shots.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:58 AM
 
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Those, we already know are given in a series and what the series is AND when it's done.
Not the case with the Covid shots.
I think that is what bothers me. I got my two Moderna shots in the early summer. If they said then once a year you will need a booster for the rest of your life I would probably have been ok with that. But this haphazard approach where they are simply reacting to the virus with no idea as to what is going to happen next. That worries me.

Its the difference between being on a plane and landing smoothly compared to crash landing the plane in a emergency.
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Old 12-03-2021, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I think that is what bothers me. I got my two Moderna shots in the early summer. If they said then once a year you will need a booster for the rest of your life I would probably have been ok with that. But this haphazard approach where they are simply reacting to the virus with no idea as to what is going to happen next. That worries me.

Its the difference between being on a plane and landing smoothly compared to crash landing the plane in a emergency.

The booster you think is a booster? Nah. It's just the 3rd in a series.

The FOURTH jab is the booster.

https://www.wishtv.com/news/medical/...RhRnwSNqpdvja8


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“The first booster recommendation was actually a third dose for people who are immunocompromised,” he said. “Those folks were recommended for a third shot that sounded like a booster, but it was really a third shot for the primary series. And now they are being recommended for a true fourth shot booster six months after they receive their third shot. So, that’s who this applies to and that’s the rationale behind it.”
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Old 12-03-2021, 07:37 AM
 
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Good rule. I presume everything I'm told to be false until proven otherwise.
I only leave my basement when I hear tornado sirens.
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I never thought a vaccine could be so worthless as to require a booster shot within the very same year.
The annual flu shot is the same duration, it just doesn't matter as much because the flu is not a raging pandemic spreading unchecked. If we control COVID and it becomes more of an endemic seasonal virus it would require annual shots like the flu. If there's an end game other than "collapse of the healthcare system", it's probably that.
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Old 12-03-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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I never thought a vaccine could be so worthless as to require a booster shot within the very same year.
Not sure there is a lot of "thinking" associated with this standard echo-chamber comment. The COVID booster is not significantly different than our approach to any other endemic virus, like flu. Each year we develop a new vaccine appropriate for the variants that have emerged recently. But let me guess - you wouldn't get a flu vaccine either, so it probably does not matter.
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Old 12-03-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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I only leave my basement when I hear tornado sirens.

The annual flu shot is the same duration, it just doesn't matter as much because the flu is not a raging pandemic spreading unchecked. If we control COVID and it becomes more of an endemic seasonal virus it would require annual shots like the flu. If there's an end game other than "collapse of the healthcare system", it's probably that.
Covid is endemic. It peaks roughly twice a year regionally as opposed to flu which peaks once a year.
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