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Old 11-30-2021, 06:27 AM
 
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Okay....should I panic now. Or wait until there is more known about it, or if it has reached the U.S. ?
Wait, as it is still too soon to make solid predictions. But the trend is optimistic and in favor of mild not severe disease. Several cases were found today in the Netherlands from a few weeks ago. So if this virus is no worse than a bad cold, it could lead toward a useful and humane pathway to more natural herd immunity.
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:31 AM
 
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First discovered in Zimbabwe now in Israel and Honk Kong bypassing Delta in South Africa. What will this mean? Largest yet changes to spike protein. One year after Beta hit the region. I assumed it would be a matter of time until a new variant being to spread rapidly. Here we are. Is this the one that has been feared or not?

Scientists Raise Alarm About Mega-Mutated COVID Strain

Will the ‘Nu’ variant bypass vaccines? South African experts say it will take ‘weeks’ to find out

Coronavirus: Countries shut borders over new variant in southern Africa

New COVID variant with ‘unusual constellation’ of mutations is already more dominant than Delta in South Africa

New B.1.1.529 COVID Variant Discovered in Israel As Heavily Mutated Strain Spreads

Emergency meeting called for contagious COVID-19 variant found in South Africa


Dr Norman Swan explains all we know about the new 'Nu' variant so far | ABC News

Viruses almost always tend to mutate to less virulent strains. This will be the case for Covid as well, in the absence of any outside human bio-engineering.
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Don't panic. The dems are not as powerful as you fear.

Biden has already done everything he can. He steps into totally unconstitutional territory the SCOTUS will slap him back. They may want to do all sorts of things but Biden cannot do much more at this point. Now states can. But it would be political suicide to go back to what they did in 2020. If they do that will it flip some of their states red. You want the pandemic to keep raging. It does not help the dems.
Democrats control speech and have even supported and effectively blocked free speech of the leader of one of the two US parties as well as blocked the speech of scientists, educators, statisticians, health, etc. that doesn't fall into their false narratives, so I see the US as very similar to the Soviet Union when it comes to free speech.

Maybe for the short term, the GOP profits from widespread panic but long-trm, it's the Authoritarians of both parties that want the panic and ability to take people's freedoms from them.
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Moderna chief predicts vax will be less effective on omicron

https://www.ft.com/content/27def1b9-...6-72e432e0838f

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The chief executive of Moderna has predicted that existing vaccines will be much less effective at tackling Omicron than earlier strains of coronavirus and warned it would take months before pharmaceutical companies could manufacture new variant-specific jabs at scale.
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On Monday, Scott Gottlieb, a director of Pfizer and former commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration, told CNBC: “There’s a reasonable degree of confidence in vaccine circles that [with] at least three doses . . . the patient is going to have fairly good protection against this variant.”
Basically, no one has a frickin' clue ... but get your booster!
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Your racist President already banned travel from several African countries and New York has declared a state of emergency and Let's Go Brandon usually does what he says he won't do.
He's as much your president as he is my president, and the previous president banned countries from travel as well.

None of this reply addresses the ridiculousness of this conspiracy theory you've been riding where some mysterious global cabal has managed to coordinate countries as disparate as Japan, Israel, UK, and Brazil to ban travel in order to short airline stocks. Nobody has implemented the lockdowns you've been talking about, if anything you're sewing more panic than they are. Some people just have minds that are naturally wired to see conspiracies in everything, and it's humorous when it's political inclined like you.
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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It would be funny to me until it started effecting my life. I cannot go to NYC and eat at a restaurant there anymore without faking papers or slipping into some small hole in the wall places. We have gone insane.
In King County Washington (Seattle) where my son lives, he's required to show proof of vaccination or no covid test in the last 3 days before he can take his family to a restaurant there. It's the final straw and he's bailing on Seattle for Boise this summer. Fortunately, he'll net about $1.0M equity on his house.

We left the PNW after 29 years last year after seeing the reaction of Gov. Inslee to covid and CHAZ and we just didn't feel safe there. You also can't get a very effective treatment for covid (Ivermectin) in Washington because the Governor thinks he knows more than doctors about their patients.
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Anti viral therapeutics are the right path to take now and going forward.
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Moderna chief predicts vax will be less effective on omicron

https://www.ft.com/content/27def1b9-...6-72e432e0838f



But ...



Basically, no one has a frickin' clue ... but get your booster!
The Vaxx doesn't work on Omicron so be sure and get your booster. before it arrives
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Anti viral therapeutics are the right path to take now and going forward.
Only for those not drunk on vaxx koolaid. Yes, a good immune system with proper nutrition, diet, and exercise along with anti-viral therapeutics are the best one can do.
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:49 AM
 
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Democrats control speech and have even supported and effectively blocked free speech of the leader of one of the two US parties as well as blocked the speech of scientists, educators, statisticians, health, etc. that doesn't fall into their false narratives, so I see the US as very similar to the Soviet Union when it comes to free speech.

Maybe for the short term, the GOP profits from widespread panic but long-trm, it's the Authoritarians of both parties that want the panic and ability to take people's freedoms from them.
Look they have been squeezing us since the Patriot Act and all the spying that has been going on. They get caught red handed and nothing changes. Perhaps eventually enough of this will wake people up. That is a big reason I cannot support either party. There are a few good people mixed in there but 99% are not. Justin Amash would be one good one who fled the GOP. I like Rand Paul and of course his dad was great. But just pointing a finger at the other side changes nothing. Just locks people into voting for a lesser of two evils.
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