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Old 11-28-2021, 11:42 AM
 
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I've heard arguments that vaccines force viruses to evolve to gain resistance to vaccines. But many seem to believe that vaccines reduce the risk of mutations.

What do you believe? Do you have any data or research to support your beliefs?
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:31 PM
 
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They can do both. Depends on the sterilizing immunity they confer and the amount of virus circulating.
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:34 PM
 
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What would you say after looking at the past year with the vaccines and all the mutations we're dealing with?
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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If you would've watched CNN right now, you would've seen a doctor blaming the unvaccinated in the US for the mutations - and Moderna.

Moderna because they're not being proactive in vaccinating the entire globe quick enough.
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Liberals, do you care you’re killing people?
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The Robert Mallon has been saying this for over a year. They tried to silence him. And here we are.
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I think it is obvious looking at what is happening with this corona virus as with the others, they mutated to less severe cases to something barely noticeable.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...mune-response/

"Just as antibiotics breed resistance in bacteria, vaccines put evolutionary pressure on viruses to speed up mutations and create more virulent and dangerous variants."

This vaccine issue also played out in the poultry industry, pre-COVID:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-v...olve-20180510/

"Immunization is also making once-rare or nonexistent genetic variants of pathogens more prevalent, presumably because vaccine-primed antibodies can’t as easily recognize and attack shape-shifters that look different from vaccine strains. And vaccines being developed against some of the world’s wilier pathogens — malaria, HIV, anthrax — are based on strategies that could, according to evolutionary models and lab experiments, encourage pathogens to become even more dangerous."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/healt...udy/index.html

"(CNN)Vaccination alone won't stop the rise of new variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection, researchers warned Friday."

Science vs. the Media? Science wins!
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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If you would've watched CNN right now, you would've seen a doctor blaming the unvaccinated in the US for the mutations - and Moderna.

Moderna because they're not being proactive in vaccinating the entire globe quick enough.
Well, I guess he isn't very well educated. Some doctors have a clue, others don't.
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Old 11-28-2021, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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They cause them. Just google 'leaky' vaccines for your answer.
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Old 11-28-2021, 02:06 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Nobody really knows for sure. But they will sure tell the MSM one story or another to push their agenda.

It could be the unvaccinated.
It could be the vaccinated.
It could be the immunocompromised.
Or..it could just be the virus itself...doing what a virus does.
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