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Old 11-30-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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As I said, reviewers are not paid. It's something scientists do as a service to the scientific community. Large companies don't pay journals to publish or skew their data anymore than CDC does.

As you noted, researchers are often paid through government grants, plus companies fund research that is likely to advance their products. So I'm not claiming that money has no influence. All of these funding sources are disclosed in the publications. And yes, those are some of the most reputable medical journals. They would not risk their reputation by publishing junk research.
1. 100% false. Peer reviewers get paid.

2. 100% true. Companies fund their own research. They have a vested interested in getting a product to market.
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Old 11-30-2021, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Tens of thousands of dollars of healthcare money squandered because some weenie is afraid of a tiny needle?
Unvaccinated willfully ignorant Covid patients have no business being in a hospital. Let a family member deal with them.
This is a silly post.... the vaccinate are also filling up the hospital and funeral homes.
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Got sources?
Reported back in August...more likely more now.
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The new data suggests 1,507 people of those fully vaccinated people died from COVID-19.
Meanwhile, 7,101 people of those fully vaccinated people were hospitalized from COVID-19.
https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...a-how-many-die
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Translation: you prefer politics over science.


Fauci is not science.

Actual science exists in a vacuum....void of emotions.

Fauci is human, and the therefore subject to human agendas and biases.

He is an unelected bureaucrat and thus answers only to those who sign his grossly enormous paycheck.
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:24 AM
 
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I suggest you try a reading class...I said 16K of those who were vaccinated died.
Yes, I said that is not true and not verified. Meanwhile, 5.2 million have died from COVID worldwide.

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Then I suggest they stop talking out of their asses and go find out, and leave me alone until they find out. Thanks.

I'm not their lab rat.

I have zero desire to take ANY preventative measures against what is essentially going to be sniffles. In fact, I get sniffles twice a year, it's called allergy season.

Again, Immunologists do not know that this new variant is going to evade the vaccine. Not enough data yet. Your best bet is to get vaccinated, wear a mask in crowded conditions, wash your hands regularly, and stay home if sick. Good luck.
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You should read up on Marcia Angell, a former NEJM editor in chief.

You completely dismissed my point. Maybe she'll make an impression on you.

Where do grants come from? Big Pharma ... and government.

Who is controlling the narrative regarding the pandemic? Big Pharma ... and government.

"Real" data .. you mean like long-term data on the vaccines? It doesn't exist.
If real data does not exist, where are you getting your "facts"? Do you make them up as you go along...?
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:56 AM
 
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If real data does not exist, where are you getting your "facts"? Do you make them up as you go along...?
Look into Marcia Angell, former EIC of the NEJM.

She can set you straight.
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Old 11-30-2021, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Look into Marcia Angell, former EIC of the NEJM.

She can set you straight.
She hasn’t had anything to do with the NEJM since 2000.

That also doesn’t answer the question of where you get your information. You aren’t ashamed to reveal your source, are you?
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Old 11-30-2021, 02:34 PM
 
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Yes, I said that is not true and not verified. Meanwhile, 5.2 million have died from COVID worldwide.
Meanwhile, nearly 7-8 BILLION people are alive and well. Globally, the number of people dead from covid is a rounding error.

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Again, Immunologists do not know that this new variant is going to evade the vaccine. Not enough data yet. Your best bet is to get vaccinated, wear a mask in crowded conditions, wash your hands regularly, and stay home if sick. Good luck.
Again, come back to me when they do. Until then, they need to stop talking out of their asses and focus on their research. I'll continue to ignore their "advice" which literally came out of their ass, since they don't have the data to back it up by your own admission.
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Old 11-30-2021, 03:02 PM
 
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She hasn’t had anything to do with the NEJM since 2000.

That also doesn’t answer the question of where you get your information. You aren’t ashamed to reveal your source, are you?
That's right. Why?

You should listen to interviews she has given. Might just learn something.
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